KO count = Lost tons of money

Who said I was a newcomer? That's slightly arrogant of you. Yes, you know Blackjack well, but you don't know me, grasshopper. If only one person listens to me and saves their money not using that system for a multi-deck, then my time here has been worth it.

I believe you are wrong when it comes to KO and an 8-Deck shoe. While I certainly respect your BJ knowledge, you are mistaken here.

No I haven't made "$50" instead of "$52". Again, you are generalizing and assuming. I've actually made nothing using KO, but made a decent amount of money using Omega II basic. But the Omega II with it's low BE on 8-decks, I switched to KO earlier this year. Bad move. (BTW - I used Hi-Low for nearly two years before I switched to Omega II. Oh yes I made money with Hi-Low.)

Hi-Low has a slightly less BE than KO, but yet it worked so much better on an 8-deck shoe.

Yes, I know Norm Wattenberger. Corresponded with him for at least two years. He's a huge talent, no doubt. Love his software and his attitude. Oh and BTW I'm also software engineer too with an Masters in Comp Sci. How do you think I manage to stay afloat while losing money with KO? ;) Math is second nature to me, as I use it to make it a living.

I have enough years playing (no, not nearly as many as you) to know when a system works, and when it doesn't. I've used three different systems fully, and have won money with all but KO (on an 8-deck shoe). The patterns were evident, and patterns tell without bias. I'm young, but not known as stupid.

I know your allegiance to KO (yes, I read the book and articles. Memorized them.) So I understand your defensive attack on me. But lets not cloud the real issue:

You wrote "KO underperforms Hi-Lo by about 3-5%". Yep, and then some.

KO is the easiest card counting system out of ALL systems for one reason: "If it's too good to be true, it's not true."

That's the end of it for me.

Now what?

Yokes

EXACTLY the response I expected. EXACTLY. Which is why it was obviously stupid of me to have written in the first place.

Don

You spreaded 8 times using HL and Omega against 8 decks before and won? Perhaps you win by luck then?

That's EXACTLY the response I expected too. Funny huh?

"...obviously stupid of me to have written in the first place"

Take heart: it's not the dumbest. The #1 dumbest thing you did today was recommending the KO count for 8-deck shoe.

Hmm, could be. Or maybe you just haven't tried it?

If you were winning with Hi Lo, what impelled you play another system?
"If it's good, I'll keep it." - D.S., BJA3

Just another in a very long line of trolls who come here, stir the shit for a few days, and then disappear into the oblivion whence they came.

Don

The world's most popular pasttime; The Blame Game.

And doing mostly higher EV games than counting.

You seem to know very little about Blackjack.
Don't lose time answering to this, you have been ridiculus enough up to this point.

Your prose is profound. Pitty.

The funny part is you have no idea whom you're writing to. He forgets more every day about blackjack than you'll ever hope to know.

Don

Maybe. But I'm not competing, as you are.

Let me guess, you gave each other creative writing lessons?

Listen, in the scheme of things, a card game is irrelevant, no? Go fish.

How about we play a game of chess? Now there's a man's game. Up to the challenge?

Maybe he meant pitifully profound?

Never read Shakespeare, eh? Perhaps a little education and indulging in a wee bit of English literature would do you well.

"Pity" is what pitty morphed into over the centuries. Pitty means multiple pitties (as I'm feeling for you right now), and is used extensively in English literature.

What, never heard of pitty pat either?

Put down those cards and read a book grasshopper.