According to Las Vegas Advisor Grosjean's going to be on the WSOB. Perhaps he's going to show us some holecard reading techniques:)
I can understand why SW and AS go on TV now, but I thought Grosjean was one of the worlds best APs. Why would he want everyone to know what he looks like?
What's next Ian Andersen to star in CSI?
BK (just jealous cos we probably won't get to see it in the UK)
I can understand why SW and AS go on TV now, but I thought Grosjean was one of the worlds best APs. Why would he want everyone to know what he looks like?
That is basically a myth, easily checked by any one who can use a search engine. A lot of people seem to have an emotional or vested interest in pretending otherwise, I wonder how they will explain this one away.
In his defense, at least he isn't working for the darkside for peanuts...
...publication of Beyond Counting, Grosjean could not possibly have been engaged in full-time advantage play. That is an easily checkable fact.
I'd post the links, but when I did this last time I got an avalanche of abuse from Grosjean's friends who accused me of blowing his cover. I suspect the true reason was more prosaic.
I don't have a problem with pure theoreticians, many of whom contribute a great deal to the lore of the game. I aspire to become one. I mention this because Grosjean has attacked the professionalism of Green Chip and its members, which seemed hypocritical given his limited experience.
publication of Beyond Counting, Grosjean could not possibly have been engaged in full-time advantage play (how do you know what kind of play even if it was part time he was engaged in? He and his group made more money in one hour than you cleared in your best year. What kind of ground breaking contribution have you ever made in any field? The funny thing is his book only taught everything you know not everything he knows). That is an easily checkable fact (so what? what does it prove either way?).
I'd post the links, but when I did this last time I got an avalanche of abuse from Grosjean's friends who accused me of blowing his cover(they just didn't like you, they thought and still think I'm sure, that you are full of caca, a fraud. Well they would know better than me. Because I went after big fish not tadpoles and even they grew up to be only frogs) . I suspect the true reason was more prosaic(prosaic adj. 1. a. Of or like prose b. matter of fact; straight forward. 2. Lacking in imagination & spirit; ordinary. No offense but that definition more esily applies to yourself. No imagination)
I don't have a problem with pure theoreticians, many of whom contribute a great deal to the lore of the game. I aspire to become one.(when pigs fly) I mention this because Grosjean has attacked the professionalism of Green Chip and its members,(just the fakes, the psuedo experts) which seemed hypocritical given his limited experience.(limited? when you play with an advantage like he has it is not the hours played but the types of games he played, your veiled insults are laughable for anyone who knows the game he plays and how his group played [play] them)
I'm not usually the defender of anyone but given his acumen he probably would not even notice you. But for all who read this site, be advised "Beyond Counting" is truly one of the most enlightening and ground breaking books on advantage play anyone can own. It is even more valuable than BJA 3, the other white meat. I'm sure even Don would acknowledge that, ego and all. Dons book is valuable to be sure but as the playing conditions decline and advantage games become harder to locate Grojean's book will stand the test of time.
Very few people live up to their hype.
Grosjean does.
Actually, it`s somewhat of a complement that Grosjean would be mistaken for a pure theoretician. And I can`t fault anyone for confusion on this point, very few professionals are as articulate.
But the truth is, he simply plays a higher game.
Best,
Syph
publication of Beyond Counting, Grosjean could not possibly have been engaged in full-time advantage play (how do you know what kind of play...
Because he was still at university. He was engaged in a time-consuming range of activities that reallistically could not have allowed for any other career, let alone advantage play. How do I know? I typed in "James Grosjean" on Google.
I expected several posts along these lines, but the evidence against James is sadly, pretty conclusive. I expect I will get several more shrill and incoherent responses, but I'm done here.
J Mo. rarely posts here and when he does it has never attacked the professionalism of Green Chip or its members in anyway that wasn't justfied. The fact is that 98%+ of green chip members are casual non-professional players (the amount of crosstalk about wanting to play what passes for double deck in LV should give that away rather easily).
For being a "pure theoretician" J.Mo. sure gets arrested, backroomed, and griffinized a whole bunch.
For being a "pure theoretician" J.Mo. sure gets arrested, backroomed, and griffinized a whole bunch.
My...how impressive, the guy can get backroomed and Griffinized. Here I was, thinking the objective was to win money.
...with an endless series of flames, lets go back to the issue.
I made a simple statement of fact which any one can check. It does not matter that you think James is the bee's knee's, or that I am the devil incarnate. I guess you can't handle the truth...
Was working the tables last night while you were pulling your pudding. This can be verified. I would suspect he was making money while you were still dreaming of your chateau. In fact he is still making money while you are dreaming of your chateau.
I don't know why you set yourself up to be pilloried so much, John. Must be a martyr complex.
When it comes to advantage play, I would rather read his charts than read your theoretical hubris. Sorry you seem to feel such a need to compete. I guess your invitation to the Blackjack Ball must have gotten misplaced in the mailroom.
The interest is purely intellectual for most of us. A beautiful mind is has an appeal all its own.
Feels good getting all this attention doesn't it JM? Better than being stuck in the cheap seats. Again what do you really know? What have you done? What contribution(s) have you ever made? What has anyone learned from you that actually made them money? I'm nobodies fan. It is just that you talk a good game but you don't walk it. Bitterness & Jealousy do not become you. Don't harp on one thing tell us all you know, what have you done? What, what, what? Here I have a thimble handy fill it up, oh, not quite full. As the eight ball says "try again later". Because now you are behind it.
I'm done, don't want your head to explode from all this attention...or do I?
JWP
Frank Stanton or John Patrick ;>
on John May bandwagon...I'm sure you're a nice guy. There are others here whose every waking moment it is to bash you so I'll just let them do it.
The real question is why is it you just prefer to set yourself up for a bashing like this? There is no contest between you and Grosjean unless you decide to make it a contest (in which case there is no doubt who has both more real world and theoretical expertise.
There is no contest between you and Grosjean unless you decide to make it a contest (in which case there is no doubt who has both more real world and theoretical expertise.
Look at the home.chicago.edu homepages and you can see that Grosjean was an undergraduate, or something close to it, up to the publication of his book round the turn of the millenium. He could not possibly have had a full-time AP lifestyle. The extent of his activities in Chicago make that perfectly clear.
He then appears to have undertaken post-graduate study until fairly recently (several news articles stated he was finishing a Phd). That would allow him more time as a player, but he would hardly be a full-time professional either, and he would have to spend a great deal of time travelling. In addition, he was fighting a court case, which is time-consuming. Now he's gonna be working anchor on TV or something.
He couldn't have played outside of the US for any significant period. Within the US, as we've established, he's been Griffinized, and he must have extreme difficulties getting a game. He's not an online player, nor does he seem to have any interest in sports betting, so no joy there either.
Now, I'm not that old, but I haven't/couldn't do much else. I've pretty much always been an advantage player since I was an adult. I have access to way more forms of gambling and some expertise in several lucrative markets US players don't even know exist. Within 2 hours of my home you could reach about a hundred casinos. In addition, I gamble extensively online. I cannot recall the last day when I did not place a wager.
In short: your assertion that Grosjean has more real-world experience than me, or indeed any regular green chipper, is ridiculous, and easily contradicted by the facts.
There has been a lot of discussion in this thread of various points, but I don�t think much of it has focused on your original question.
It is certainly possible for an AP to disguise his/her appearance when they are on TV. I would suspect that Mr G would do that. I saw him give a paper at an public, academic meeting last year. I believe that his disguise was so effective that I would not recognize him if I saw him in a casino.
Regarding your question about Ian Andersen. He does indicate in his writing that he did appear onTV. I think he mentions that in his original book, �Turning�� but I am not sure. He was disguised as �Colonel Sanders�
Before getting into the other issues here, let me say that I have
great respect for his James� analytic abilities. I view him as one of the best game analyst, if not the best, that we have right now.
In that light, let me comment on John May�s remark: �In his defense, at least he isn't working for the darkside for peanuts... � When someone of Jame�s abilities and talents works for the dark side, they may a lot more than peanuts. It is likely he could make more in that job than I make on my day job as a full professor (although perhaps not after you consider benefits).
I have not read his criticisms of Green Chip and BJ21. I may agree with them, or I may disagree them, but I prefer not to take a position on something that I haven�t read.
With your analysis of James�s history. Is it possible for someone to gain a lot of experience as an AP while being a student.
Regarding his being Griffinized, I know a lot of American APs who are Griffinized who continue to make good money from Advantage Play.
Maybe I am mis-reading your post, but it sounds to me like you are accusing James of hypocrisy. I think you need stronger evidence that than before accusing somebody of hypocrisy.
