ES10 bs/deviations

Hello there, I am going to try counting generally for the comps. so i will try 1-3 bet spread for covering. Would be someone so kind to help with correct BS in line with i18 devs for the below rules and advice me the proper bet ramping for 1-3 spread please? Thanks in advance.

- 6 deck, S17, BJ(3 to 2), ENHC, DAS, DOA, ES10 with avarage/poor Pen

- Ace split to maximum 2 hands (only 1 card to split ACE) and Non-Ace split to maximum 4 hands. 

Do you want the ES10 indices for playing the hands or do you want the basic strategy for the game you've described?

Don

Hi Don, thanks for the reply. 

the information for both will be precious for me. Also, I am opened for what you recommend please. 

Especially i am confused with surrender options in ES10 strategy within i18 devs. example; Which one should i apply for 16 vs 10? surrender or i18 dev? 

Thanks.

Edit:

while searching for infos, i found this : “If the game offers surrender, this is the first decision we must make.” ( from "Modern Blackjack" )

you agree with that Don? whats your opinion about surrender vs i18 priority??

Surrender always takes priority over all other index decisions (omitting insurance).

Don

Thank you Don.

what do you recommend me for ramping for a 1-3 spread for these rules that i mentioned please ?

Get to the three-unit bet as fast as you can. 🙂

From pg. 174 Professional Blackjack by Stanford Wong Early Surrender 10 indices:

High-Low, Four Decks, Dealer Stands on Soft 17

10-7     5

 9-8      6

10-6    -6

  9-7    -6

  8-8    -3

10-5    -3

  9-6    -3

  8-7    -3

10-4     -1

  9-5      0

  8-6     -1

  7-7     -2

10-3      3

  9-4      4

  8-5      3

  7-6      2

10-2      8

  9-3      7

  8-4      7

  7-5      7

  6-6      8

  6-Ace 18

  5-2     14

  4-3     14

  5-Ace 15

  4-2     11

  3-3     11

  4-Ace 16

  3-2     12

  2-2     15

Thank you Phil

This list is too long. Let me summarize:

Always surrender these 3 hands: 16, 15, 14.

Conditionally surrender these 3 hands: 17@+5, 13@+3, 12@+8.

Sounds good. Also in Professional Blackjack on page 126, table 39 has modifications to basic strategy hi-lo indexes for when you lose all to naturals. 3 indexes are different. For 4 decks dealer stands on soft 17: Double down 11 vs. 10 at counts of 12 or above. Split Ace-Ace vs. 10 at -6 or above. Split Ace-Ace vs. Ace at 24 or above. So effectively not too much difference.

Are you sure your reference is accurate? I have a Wong 1994 book and I just looked up but couldn’t find this info.  I've never heard of these two: Double down 11v10 @+12,  split AAvA @+24.

Don and I provide newly generated indices for 6 deck S17 ENHC games and rank them by contribution to SCORE in our new book: The Hi-Lo Card-Counting System: A Complete Guide to Index Play. See page four of the Huntington Press holiday catalog:

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/2022-holiday-catalog/

Not sure what year mine is. Will be away for a few days. Look for a table that says something like indexes for when dealer takes all on a natural.

Nice!

I found it finally. The table you mentioned actually shows double 11v10 @+3 and hit AAvA; however, one appendix table shows double 11v10 @+4 and split AAvA @+24. So, the double 11v10 index should be @+3 or +4. 

The edition I have is from 1981, says first Morrow Edition.

The table is Table 39 and entitled Modifucations to Appendices When You Lose All To A Natural

For 4 decks, stand on soft 17

Doubling Down 11 Against 10 is 12,
 

Split Ace-Ace Against 10 is -6, 
 

Split Ace-Ace Against Ace is 24

Your book version is too old. Use my newer version numbers for double 11v10. 

What table number is it in the 1994 edition, and what is the heading of the table? Just wanting to check we are comparing the same thing. Thanks.

In your ENHC do they take all the splits and double $s if the house gets blackjack? I read there are some ENHC games that return the additional $s beyond the first bet.