Worry about BR preservation only as you build it up

Here is what I believe to be the optimal way to become a winning player, regardless of starting bankroll. It does assume you are a basically a good player. If you suck or if you have no guts except a lot of math and probability education, wouldn�t make you any real money at the tables. But this strategy is also good for the crappy player as it maximized his chance of staying in chips.

1) Small bankrolls are worthless. You will get eaten by the casino at the micro levels games up to $10 minimum.
2) Time is of the essence. If you are earning $5- $10 per hour in BJ you are wasting your time. Blackjack is not a healthy enough lifestyle to spend the time necessary to have any significant financial benefits unless you are making significantly more money. Go work until you get at least a decent bankroll available to you.
3) 5K to 10K is a small bankroll an small bankrolls are not worth stressing over protecting. Worry about BR preservation as you build it up.

The strategy is as follows ..
Assuming a 20K bank. First, you set down in a 50 minimum table. Bet very aggressive into a Up-as-you-Win progression while using a valid card counting system like Wong�s Half count with up to 40 index numbers until you are up $1000. Then lock it up, and play conservative bet up-as-you-win on positive counts only until you are up another $500. If you lose 50% of the 1K profit, quit and end the session until the next day when you repeat the same thing. If you can reach 1.5K profit, you now have a mini bankroll of $1,500 to play with $75 minimum unit. Chose your best game. Buy in for the $1,500 profit. Bet aggressive for up to $1000 of the 1.5K. If you lose 1K that ends the session. It is very easy to win 1K in a $75 minimum bets on a 1.5K buy in. When you have at least 3K in PROFIT leave for the day. The next day repeat with the original 1.5K. Even if you lose you still have 2 more shots at a win. You just need top win a couple hands and you will be on the roll. Repeat process until your BR is 50K.

Now take 5K for buy in and do the exact same thing in a $200 unit game. This is the only area it pays to respect your BR. Don�t leave too much of your profit on the table at any one time. If you can win at least 1.2 times in 2 you will be a significant winner. Your BR should be in the 50K or above range, and you should have only been working on it a week or two.

Now you arrive at the stage of having a BR to protect and you should only bet up-as-you-win on positive counts. If you reach table limit at any time, bet that limit only on positive counts and ONLY if you accumulated 2x or more that table limit. If the count is negative DO NOT bet the limit but end the session right there. If is positive and you�ve won the previous hand then bet the limit and end the session after that.

My main point is small Bankrolls are not worth protecting, it turns you into a weak player. If you have a small bankroll, control your money and play as if your BR is not an issue.

Puiu

"Time is of the essence. If you are earning $5- $10 per hour in BJ you are wasting your time."

$10 an hour sounds good to a twenty-something college student who can't work full time.

$10 per hour with the risks/fluctuations associated with blackjack is worth virtually nothing. A job is much, much better.

My post is not about progression!
Can you understand? Hmmmm?

Puiu

To me, you sound like someone who follows John Patrick's strategies and visits his homepage every day, posting and discussing with those other sore losers.

/Lux

First and foremost Lux, mind your own business because you are not qualified to even talk about BJ. What do you know? Is anybody aware of your existence or ever heard about you? Are the guys from the �strip� or downtown know that you are on the blackjack scene?

When I start playing Blackjack for the first time you didn�t even figure out yet that the game was invented.

So, please mind your own business and don�t stick your face where is not your business.

Puiu

"The strategy is as follows ..
Assuming a 20K bank. First, you set down in a 50 minimum table. Bet very aggressive into a Up-as-you-Win progression while using a valid card counting system like Wong�s Half count with up to 40 index numbers until you are up $1000."

This is a Progression....I'm not judging it either way. I'm simply asking politely for you to post it in the proper place. Whether or not you call it Power Blackjack or whatever does not change what it is.

Thanks

"First and foremost Lux, mind your own business because you are not qualified to even talk about BJ."

Oh really??? I have been studying blackjack very hard for four years, and made it through approximately 25 books on the subject. You comment above really qualifies you to John Patrick follower. I am younger than you are, though, I know a hell more about th game than you do. You stupid posts notify that you don't know a squat about blackjack, i.e. questioning obvious things such as high counts, etc.

"What do you know? Is anybody aware of your existence or ever heard about you? Are the guys from the �strip� or downtown know that you are on the blackjack scene?"

I have been posting regulary on rge21.com for several months, I have done interviews with famous blackjack authors. Yes, most serious players (who visit rge21.com and bj21.com regulary) know who I am.

"When I start playing Blackjack for the first time you didn�t even figure out yet that the game was invented."

And yet you haven't even learned the basics... sigh!

"So, please mind your own business and don�t stick your face where is not your business."

Not my business? You keep writing the same things in different words. I have written a book on blackjack (in my native language). The first and only, btw.

Where are you from btw? Russia? Asia?

/Lux

When you are 18 you can ride & gamble on the Florida boats. ,Perhaps
you will have beginners luck; but if you are fortunate you will lose
your ass. Then you will learn that the big spread and big bet only
works for a VERY lucky few. Don't drop out of school, you will need
all that education for a day job.

All the books in the world wouldn�t help you a bit making money in this game. Also, posting on this forum means adds nothing to your BJ $$ profit.

You need the EXPERIENCE, you need to put the time at the tables. Only the experience will help you to become a con and charlatan to be able to make any real money in this game.
You can read all you want, you can post all you want, you can study all the statistics in the universe and you still wouldn�t have any idea how to make real money in this game.

The mathematical theory is OK but is just a �a theory�. From that theory to the real money making process is a long way that only time and experience will prevail.

Puiu

Please expain to me why playing Blackjack makes you an expert. I would like to know what it is at the tables that you learn which makes you able to beat the game. What information do you gain only while playing and not in studying....this should be good...

At the tables.

You can only learn to flow with the casino atmosphere by doing.

You can only experience the fluctuations by doing.

You can only plan your game trips efficiently by doing.

Experience is much more than studying the books, after years of playing and loving I'm still learning.

Playing blackjack profssionally with anything less than 2000 units is dumb.

Dear Puiu,

I don't think you understand. Everyone here has read your posts and seen you put you foot in your mouth numerous times. Mostly without even taking your sock off first.
Q,What can you learn from books?
A, Almost everything. Statistics tell us things that you couldn't figure out from observation in a hundred lifetimes.
Yes I agree that playing is different from studying but studying has to come first if one is ever to be a sucessful advantage player. When I was first learning i would spend hundreds of hours getting a new count, BS, Index strategy down before taking it to the casino. And If I had to have a partner I'd take Robert Lux a young guy that tries hard and studies and applies scientific principles to the game anyday befor I'd be matched up with a know it all. loud mouth obnoxious progressions player like yourself. I know guys like you..can't find your own rectum with your thumb but think you know where everyone elses is located. $10/Hr is fine...as long as you are gaining experience and putting the $10 into your bankroll. So go back to your progressions page where people think your smart. Be a big fish in a little pond becaseu I can't speak for the others in this room but I think your a big loud mouth attention seeking jerk.

BlackJack table ?

This is why I mentioned you (Steephan) Chem nerd and Quark, in my FA Dropouts post. Each of you understands statistics but also has additional tools to bring back to strictly statistical subjects, where methods from other fields can shed light. But if you haven't figured it out by now, some people are used to having knowledge, or nonsense, spoon fed to them, and what is not in the format that they are used to they immeadiately reject. And worse they rant and rave and insult without understanding but much unmerited stature.

Now you see other examples, and how this colors clone, progressionist, and just plain ploppie positions as well.

Just go over Singh's book Fermat's Last Theorem, and take a look at how proof of this famous postulate had to take a meandering course from partition theory, to theory of sets, to calculus, etc., and how "gurus" in each field screemed heresy over its tools being allegedly missused. Is it any wonder you see this happen in blackjack too?

Best regards!

You're right. But I've got to build my skill up somehow. Computer software and a deck of cards only does so much. I enjoy playing BJ, but I've got to keep it small until I build up a sufficient BR; unless someone wants to front me some cash. :)

dont mind making 10 bucks with no benefits as oppossed to 15 with because they dont mind putting in crazy hours to cut the difference and prefer to get paid less then to get paid more and be exploited. Dilema whats better to take 10 bucks an hour from the greedy casinos or to make 17 bucks an hour while your employer makes 20 bucks an hour off you(thats 20 bucks an hour after your pay/benefits are subtracted. Isnt it better to make a little less and live frugally then make a little more so you can have a bigger car, bigger TV, bigger house. more compact discs while your employer makes a fortune off you. I dont need a mammoth house, a big gas guzzling SUV, HDTV and dont forget the gambling benefit everyone forgets free dining. Everyone has to make up there own mind, by the way if everyone was like me the entire US economy would collapse because that's the whole contradiction of capatilism whats good for the individual is not good for the economy. Whats good for the economy SPEND SPEND SPEND but is that good for the individual NO NO NO.