What is the best way to handle a trespassing?

I am thinking I could just stand there and plug my ears. "I can't HEAR you!" Or head to the door and see if they can finish reading the whole thing before I get out of earshot. Or maybe when they ask if I understand keep saying "no" until they give up. Or just not respond at all? Or wave my arms and shout bad imitations of other languages "Je n'est comprendez! No comprendo! Kein verstehen!" Make some klicking noises. Whatever.

It does seem weird to just stand there and listen to all that. I wonder, do I really have to?

What do you think?

cold

and don't sign anything, don't give them any ID, don't go to any office for processing or picture taking, etc. Just go cash your chips and leave. Don't engage them or the guards.

Why on earth would you be standing there listening to them talk? Force them to put their hands on you or something so that you'll have a law suit.

you can just turn your back on them and start walking?

If so, then you can never really get "trespassed" because they can never read it to you.

Have you tried this?

cold

your best bet is be politely thank them and tell them you won't be playing there anymore (which is what they really want) THEN turn your
back and leave. DD' is right.. let them be the aggressors from that moment on.

I'd send the little lady back to cash the checks later.

Spok

I never considered anything else. But yes, you have been trespassed. It wouldn't stop me from going back. I just don't see any reason to cooperate in any way or give them the time of day. Sometimes I walk away and say nothing. Sometimes I keep talking non-stop so they can't get a word in. Pit bosses who recognize me now have an abbreviated version, "Hey bud. Pick up your chips and get out."

where i'm playing is carry a beeper. I leave it in the off position. If there is absolutly anything going on at anytime where I don't want to be there, I simply non-chalantly reach down and turn it on so it starts to beep. I pick it up, look at it as though something urgent was going on and dismiss myself. This covers me for anything. I remember being at a table a while back and something was happening around me that made me realize they were on to me. I abruptly left and I remember telling Don the story in the RGE chatroom and he said that was not the way to dismiss myself. So since then I came up with the beeper idea. Works every time.

Good luck,
HOLLYWOOD

...and enjoy the lack of respect that you demonstrate by doing so.
Don't be like me when early this year I was surrounded by 5 guards at The Hilton who took the time to explain to me that "card counting is illegal" then got into a short internal debate on it while I cashed my chips - one of them read the Act as I walked slowy to the door and then loudly asked me if I was refusing to sign - I stopped, turned around to face the remaining three and said smiling, "sign this" while grabbing my crotch Damon Wayons style - continuing to a cab, I flipped them off as I pulled away - very immature I admit, though sometimes its a moral necessity to assert one's domain - I played another 6 hours that day/nite in various PPE properties, to further assert my moral imperative.

The point if any is that if you not be intimidated and you are willing to risk being manhandled, you may make a score, and otherwise they have little right except to follow you to the door.

G

.. to be sure and return before long with another persona. G

You're still trespassed. What they want to do is provoke some emotional reaction from you. If you just leave immediately, they won't get one.

At one strip place, a guard ordered me to stand still so that he could read the statute to me. Another strip place wanted me to sign a card attesting that I had been trespassed. I just said, "You've gotta be kidding me" and left. This is a response that I often find useful even in non-casino contexts.

you had me laughing for 5 minutes. I loved it. Have a happy holiday.

Hollywood

and hit the door.Don't stop to listen to anything.You can come back on another shift,another day,week,month,whateverto cash those chips in or get somebody else to cash them for you.If you stand around listening or arguing with them they'll get a real good make on you. If you leave quickly and quietly you may even get to play there again before too long.Just make sure it's on a different shift.

IC

I am female, new to this site and only a casual BJ player and a non-counter. Was at a $200 minimum limit BJ table at a LV strip casino a little more than a week ago, and stayed from around ~12:30AM to ~5-6AM playing with one or 2 people at first then heads-up against dealers. Won a total of a few thousand dollars.

During the time I was there, I often needed to use the restroom. Used the one outside on the floor at first, then upon learning there was one inside the high-limit area for high rollers, I used that one.

After I cashed in my chips, I stopped by the restroom out on the floor before I left. I finished my business there, but needed to use it again a few minutes later. As I went in the 2nd time, I saw a female black security guard standing outside the restroom. Thought it was a little odd, but didn't think much more of it. Went into the stall and out. As I washed my hands, 2 or 3 white security guys went into the ladies room. Sensing something was happening, I asked: "What's happening?" One of the security guys responded: "Can I see your ID?" "No." was my answer as I thought I didn't do anything wrong and there was no reason for me to show my ID to these guys. Besides, they hadn't given me a reason why they wanted or needed to see my ID. After demanding to see my ID a while without positive results, they said "someone reported you were smoking in the restroom." As a non-smoker, I told them I don't smoke, that I was at the high-limit blackjack table all night without smoking, and they could go there to check it out. (I had been playing blackjack all night, and was pretty exhausted and sleepy by then therefore forgot that this was not a high school restroom.) Finally, we went back to the high-limit pit and I let the bosses there figure things out for me. They still demanded to see my ID, and finally stated that "you were smoking marijuana". I told them several times I felt I was being harassed and that since it was a crime to smoke marijuana, I wanted the whole incident reported to the police, which they refused.

I got tired of arguing with them after a while so I left. Should I contact a lawyer? :-) By the way, I was the only casino patron in the restroom during the "Security demanding to see my ID"-incident.

Toots'

The pit crew is far less likey to remember someone who fades out
harmlessly and quietly. Being polite only helps.

My number 1 goal is to preserve my BJ livlihood. The sooner I can go
back to a casino after a barring without being recognized, the better,
and I generally shoot for 14 to 16 months after a barring on the shift
in question. If I raise a stink while being barred, it greatly enhances the liklihood they'll remember me and preventing that is much more important than seeing their reaction as I grab the gonads
and wind up with my face permanently etched in their small brains.

During 2001, I've played, without problem, in the midst of 3 pit bosses who were instrumental in barring me years ago. The only
difference is that I now wear glasses in those casinos.

Spok

and they can force you to leave if you refuse. They can use any excuse.

The pit crew is far less likey to remember someone who fades out
harmlessly and quietly. Being polite only helps.
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ABSOLUTELY. G

I believe that it is illegal for them to "accost" you in the ladies room. By law, video cameras are NOT allowed in a restroom. I find it hard to believe that you do not have legal backing regarding males entering a women's restroom for ANY reason while you're inside. Stick 'em!