Mandalay Bay conditions

I can remember the day when people went to the casinos intent on winning $. Now the average ploppy goes there for other reasons and during his/her visit, they buget for and expect to lose. Somehow that got to be okay. This form of brain-washing of the public needs to change.

OK, I know I hardly ever post, but I believe there are hundreds like myself who have read everything about BJ from books and sites like this over many years, that would support public advertising of casinos offering good games and trashing the 6:5 rip-off merchants and piss-poor cutters and hot-houses. We, the silent ones, are probaly more numerous than you might imagine. (Overseas, etc...)
I have an idea to throw out there which would be fair on everyone's bankroll, makes sense in regards to amount of time spent playing and aggressiveness of play to help raise money for the cause. Once a list of supporters exists, an honesty system would be put in place:
When backed off, thrown out (or beaten up?) by casino personnel, you must donate one maximum bet to the cause! (Perhaps being half-shoed could mean a half-max bet donation). A record of casino's name and details would be emailed to an organiser's database for sweatshop stats.

being advantage players it isn't funny any more. First off, I HOPE Doc got his question answered by Innoncent B. This thread has many different ideas and opinions in it. I'm pretty sure that Mandalay conditions are well known, so the lose lips have already left their lipstick on the dipstick. They also protect their game knowing what they are offering. I'm sure Mandalay's surveillance knows what we are talking about here. What's one more screen to watch? Hell this one even has a search on it to make your job easier. Just don't tell them when you're showing up, that you are from Alaska, etc. They also have accounts on the paid boards. Only Arnold's old defunct site didn't get infiltrated according to Cellini.

Most people look at Vegas like a fun spot to play games and maybe win some money. If your holiday budget allows you 2K and and you can go cheap to LV you feel comfy losing your 2K and possibly winning?? Now if you take the family to Disneyland instead you'll have a bunch of pictures and a belly full of candy floss to show for it. These are the people that SHOULD allow casinos to cut us some freakin' SLACK, but being the greedy-assed bastards they are, they want EVERY seat with a ploppy in it. Almost sounds like the a chicken in every pot speach.

Personally I find myself boycoting the entire onland BJ game, not out of principle right now, but simply because I have a better advantage online. This advantage is not only mathematical, it is also a matter of convience. The closest game is 1 1/2 hours away and offers 8 decks. I can log on from home, and if I wanted to do a full head on attack for some reason, can make x amount of $ in a few hours without question.

You guys do have some great ideas. Get AC, SW, etc with his publishing business fired up and send him after these stonewalling casinos. HA!! Tell me why that will never happen and you'll win a prize.

Happy Birthday to me
I live in the sea
I eat all the little fish
And the big ones eat me

One day you'll get tired of swimming around with half your freakin' tail gone. The people that should be leading you into battle are doing nothing. I'd rather be with the Marines in Haiti. WHO-RAH!!

You want to wage a war? Read Sun Tzu's book and beat that freakin' giant with one smooth river stone. Wanna know why he picked out five stones? The big G had four brothers, but they turned tail and ran.......cowards.

for their duplicity everyday. Shame them into fairmess. Only persistence will succeed.

to protesting the casino BS. They cannot stop and will not want to defend constant public information on their sleazy practices. Internet and billbords are not their property. Several years ago, MGM tried to claim that their sidewalks were their property, I think they lost that case, but not sure. If there is a will there will be a way.

regardless of who owns the real estate under them. It doesn't even matter who put up the $ to construct the sidewalks. The way I see it is; These baztards don't want any chance for negative publicity out front of there establishments. Well too bad! As for the littering of the porn stuff, something needs to be done for a resolve.

There should be a certain amount of area along each side of the strip designated or dedicated to the city as part of the right-of-way. But regardless, there may also be a law of adverse possession in NV to protect the rights of the public using the sidewalks consecutively for at least 5 years.

regardless of who owns the real estate under them. It doesn't even matter who put up the $ to construct the sidewalks. Don't people have the right to freedom of speech and the right to demonstrate in or on public areas? The way I see it is; These baztards don't want any chance for negative publicity out front of their establishments. Well too bad! However, casinos with fair gaming should be respectively rewarded with positive publicity as well. As for the littering of the porn stuff, something needs to be done for a resolve on that issue.

There is most likely a certain amount of area along each side of the strip designated or dedicated to the city as part of the right-of-way. There has to be. During a major construction project approval process, the city is always resourceful enough to get area dedicated to them. But regardless, there may also be a law of adverse possession in NV to protect the continuing rights of the public because of their using the sidewalks consecutively for at least 5 years.

I know you casino execs/counselors are reading this stuff, so go and smoke this up in your bongs.

Keep in mind that over 14 Billion dollars was wagered in the state of Nevada last year. Sun Tzu: know the enemy as you know yourself. Good luck to you all...

Thank you. It would also be nice to know how much of that $ stayed in the hands of the player. I'm guessing maybe as little as 25%. Don't most people play until they lose? We can also consider that there are X $ not being reported.

We now just want to start a campaign to keep a little more of the future years wagers in the hands of the players.

.. I'm the last guy in the world to rain on anyone's hopes and dreams. Don't let what I said earlier stop you from doing whatever it is you have a passion for.

I'm not backing away from what I've previously stated; but I passed on buying Microsoft back in the 80's, so what do I know for sure. :) What I do know is that there are certain principles that need following or this will just be another project that is much ado about nothing.

> S.R., sorry for the hit over the head.
No problem.

>It is probably too much for any one of us to become the so-called �President� and try and make it successful mostly alone. Maybe we need an elected committee?

Nope, you have now doomed the Revolution to failure. Ross Perot once said "If you see a snake, kill it. Don't appoint a committee on snakes." Somebody has to step up and take the lead; be the point man. A board of advisors would sure be nice to have, but the work won't get done by them. The work won't get done until someone steps up.

> Maybe BJ21 could make it a sideliner ...

You want "sideliner" results? Will "sideliner" effort get it done? I doubt it. The casino's will have a full-time spin machine working day and night to beat you, if you ever show up on their radar screens (translate financial statements.)

> The individual recognition will come forth later if each of us will believe.

The individual that gets this done won't be doing it, initially, for recognition. The fact you would say this makes me again wonder, how shall I say this nicely, "how many times you have actually been around the block." He won't be doing it (fully) because he has seen a wrong and want's to make it right. He will do it because he thinks he has found a way to personally profit from the effort -while at the same time -doing good. Nothing wrong with that.

The organization we know as "Goodwill Industrys" is a great thing, no? The individuals running each of the local state organizations make real money; big money. As they should.

Good luck.