latest RTG scam

The angelciti group were regarded as one of the honest and reputable groups of RTG.Looks like they have gone bad like the rest of them.
Check this out from WOL
http://www.winneronline.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006133.html

Funny thing is that caruso has been bonus hustling for a long time so even an experienced guy like him is getting stung.
The old saying "if it seems to good to be true then it is" really applies here.
My advice is that if you receive bonus offers in your email just wait and see if they are being honoured or not.

I received that e-mail, thought it looked fishy and passed. If it's as bad as it seems on Winner on Line I'm glad I did. I do sometimes think there is a little too much whining on winner on line though. Still glad I passed.

Hip Hop

yes i think a lot of posters at WOL are whiners and morons.Mainly Bonuslover and KX.
Did you see the post where KX said he had "proved" that RTGs pontoon was rigged because he lost a certain amount of money in a session.
and bonuslovers post that Micro were not giving a real BJ game because they dont deal a hole card.(It took a multitude to explain to him what european no hole card BJ is)
Still these are always good for a laugh!

that I didn't quit my job and start bonus-whoring on-line casinos to pay the rent.

Why quit your day job? A multiple income stream is where it's at G. I guess you could call anything that you trade your time/self for whoring. Why you so negative G? You hate it when you ain't gettin blessed? CHANGE YUR ATTITUDE DUDE. Start by being a little more humble and leave those big names alone, or Lucy Fur will cornhole you.

is it advised to stay away? Do winnings EVENTUALLY get paid (normally), or do they just steal it away.

Are these just for the large bonuses? Do the matching bonuses get ripped off? Just that taking out all the RTG casinos takes out alot of BHing opportunites (smaller list=hit them up more=more hassles with changing IDs, addy's etc).

Good Question!

I've just received an offer to re up at 5 Roses (RTG). 30% to a max bonus of $700 not for a newbie, re up!!! One catch is that I can't play Baccarat to qualify (or craps, roulette) I usually kill myself on the BJ. Someone once said if it's too good to be true.....

DeMango

I have had several terrible experiences with RTG casinos. There are about $14,000 in winnings that I will never see because of different times that these casinos blatantly cheated me out of money.

But there are lots of RTG casinos out there, and my bad experiences can be limited to just a handful of them:
Virtual Casino (which you need to be careful of because they own many other casinos under different names, but you'll know it's Virtual when you down load the software)
Palace of Chance and Club Player.com
Silversands and powerbet
Blast21, Casinoextreme, Casinoheat, and RubyDragon
Also, all of my bad experiences have come with casinos located in Costa Rica.
And just recently, at fiverosescasino (affiliated with onluckcasino, goldencomps, and goldenriviera) I recently won $4,000, 350 of which was bonus money. I wagered way, way beyond the requirements, but after they paid me, I opened up an account with Goldenriviera and they told me that I was not eligible to receive the bonus because I was a bonus hustler, which is true, but not with these casinos. Small potatoes in comparison with some of the RIDICULOUS hassles I've gone through with other casinos, but still.
It seems like each software has its share of bad apples, but overall, the quality of online casinos are going down the tubes.

These people make Las Vegas pit bosses look like Mother Theresa.
Makes me think we should back off Saddam and drop a few on Costa Rica
:)

but have heard bad things about them. I thought BJ play isn't allowed anymore at the golden riviera? I lost some money because I didn't read the terms closely enough (they have 2 sets of promotion terms). (built winnings up to about 1k before I realised BJ play wasn't allowed. Had to play stud poker to get my winnings.

Do you normally get you deposits back? If so I'd try them anyway, since most people probally get paid.

It's still probally more efficient to find casino's you like and just keep on hitting them up. That'd require a lot of hassling around though.

Do you normally get you deposits back? If so I'd try them anyway, since most people probally get paid.

I was ripped off at casino extreme and virtual.I have heard of a lot more rip off RTG casinos.

I dont understand what you mean by "trying them anyway".Usually at RTGs you have to wager 8 or 9 times your deposit before you get the bonus,so a lot of the time you will wipe out and the times that you actually finish wagering at a total above your deposit there is a huge chance that you will only get your deposit back.

So taking all these factors into account you would be playing a negative expectation game.

you would also be wasting time that could be spent gambling on a pos game.And in advantage play time is money.

Last year people were thinking that RTG would clean up their act but they have actually gotten worse.And the other software providers seem to be following them down the tube.

Most RTG's are thieves. I've heard of Palace of Chance giving a guy an e-mail: "We are refunding your deposits and giving you $50 for your troubles. We are closing your account." Translation: We are stealing your $5,000 in winnings and bonuses.

You had better make sure you are on the "VIP list" for those Golden Comps offers. You will deposit and they will deny the bonus. And then take 2 months+ to get your money back to you. No matter that you have been getting the e-mails for months.

Casino Extreme has a history of stealing. They will log into your account and play roulette for you, losing all your money. You say "what happened" and complain in all the usual places. They will furnish a play schedule to RTG showing that you lost it playing roulette. This has happened more than once.

The stories are endless. And here is the latest from WOL. The AngelCiti group gave a promotion that allowed BJ. Ater people played changed the terms to say no BJ. Then they took that as a license to deny the winnings and bonuses of everyone who played BJ. But people who lost money are not getting a refund. There is nothing you can do. You had no way of knowing that they would change the terms of the promotion after you played! And these thieves are listed on NASDAQ. You would think that would get you a little protection.

play RTG's at your own risk.

anon314

And you've assumed the player's advocacy mantle? Sad,pathetic times.

RTG is damn near unplayable nowadays with these sorry wretches at the helm.

INetBet is first-class. Windows are honest felons. The rest are a plague to be avoided.

He just realizes that if people realize that bonus whoring is a mirage that he can no longer hustle a few bucks teaching people how to do it.

He just realizes that if people realize that bonus whoring is a mirage that he can no longer hustle a few bucks teaching people how to do it.

Beware Rob McGarvey, and spread the word about this guy. Would you want to do business with a buy who writes a post like the one above? Bonus hunting ain't what it used to be, but Rob needs to continue the illusion in order to continue his little affliate deal. Bob is the online equivalent of a late-night infomercial huckster.

If you're a new player, save the Rob hassle (he probably won�t answer your Email anyway) and buy Haywood's book and search the various online gambling boards, that will give you enough of an education to scoop up the few crumbs left from hustling bonuses. But don't quit you day job, the good ole days are over.

RTG's are the worst of the online casino lot. Yes, many of their casinos send out nice offers, and RTG software seems to be fair, but RTG sites will steal your money in a heartbeat, and there is damn little you can do about it. Do a search on an RTG casino at any online gambling site, you will come up with plenty of complaints.

And of course, Microgaming software almost certainly cheats, and that software is Rob�s favorite for his affiliate deal. I wonder why that is? Could it be that he gets a chunk of your loss? Hey, I�m just asking.

I had serious problems with this casino. They are pretty sharp and once they realize you are playing with an edge (wins and losses don't matter), they will make your life miserable. If you can fool them, they will probably pay, but the cover you need to fool them will just about negate the edge. If you tempt fate, don't say I didn't warn you ;-)

Check the WOL thread here for details / bullshit excuses.

And you can add to that $28,000 stolen last year from just ONE player - check out the latest Casinomeister newsletter here.

I've read several of Robs post,in my opinion he's one the biggest shillsters on the internet. He seems to never lose and then says he has checks to prove it.

If everytime I got a check when cashing out at a real casino cage, I'd have millions in check stubs. Is this proof I win millions? Not hardly, however, the gullible and weak might believe I'm a millionaire.Checks mean NOTHING. Especially since you work for the internet casinos. Gee, I could even be a big loser and show check stubs ,duh?

Oh yeah Rob,I forget to tell you what you can do with the $20,000 internet offer you proposed to me................
Man, I must be a idiot for missing out on all that easy money,,oh well.

Rob might not be a moron,but he certainly thinks we are.