KO

I have a question regarding KO
KO was the first systtem I starting using. I since switched to Hilow. I was wondering if ohter people who use KO experience the same problem i did. This was that it seemed extremely long for the count to get positive. I play in a casino where 8 decks are used. and often when I was using KO a positive count would usually only come along with one or 2 hands left. I did not experience the same problem with Hilow.
Thanks

I am new to KO, as well and posted almost an identical question on Green Chip...

Wildcard gave me a couple of links to threads that dealt with this issue previously, both are excellent, but both are on Green Chip and if you are not a member won't have access to them. Perhaps you can email him and he'll be able to help you.

There is a way to do it, but I found it easier to just look for a good 2 deck game....

All of the cards in each deck add up to zero in a balanced count, hence the name. When the count is positive, the running count must be temporarily converted to the true count to determine just how valuable that positive count is.

Unbalanced counts are designed to make counting easier by eliminating the true count conversion. In KO, each deck adds up to plus 4.

KO starts off indicating an exaggerated negative situation when too many cards remain undealt to gain much of an advantage anyway. KO then slowly climbs up as cards are dealt since every deck adds up to +4. If the remaining cards are rich in big cards, KO would have climbed faster than average. When and if the KO count goes sufficiently positive to indicate a desirable situation, penetration has also been achieved to fairly match the positive indication.

This is why you experienced your positive counts primarily late in the shoe. If every card in the shoe were played, it would always end in a positive count.

KO is a proven, effective count. I recommend it to any casual player who wishes to have the edge over the casino, but wants to enjoy his play, and has no interest in further advancing his game.

If you think that you might take up other advantage play, you made the right choice by switching to a balanced count, especially Hi-Lo.

But with six decks. I can only imagine 8 decks would have been torture waiting for a good count. I really like Hi-low and wish I had learned it to begin with.

MC

Do you have good success with KO against DD? I know DD is popular, and a lot of people even prefer it over single deck. For me, it's the worst game around. Whenever I've played DD it's like throwing money away. I used to use KO, which I think did great against Single and 6 decks. Anytime I'd try DD my money would disappear faster then I could pull it out of my pocket. I've since changed counts, but I won't go anywhere near a DD game. I always wondered but never knew, if the problem was a KO weakness against DD, or if it's just not my game. So basically, you're experience has been very positive using KO against two decks? I guess double deck just isn't for me. Strange.

MC