how much do i need?

I know 9 times my Min bet for +4 is not enough. But I cannot OVER BET. i only have 25,000 in my bankroll now. I shall go back to 10 or 15 min table. But 50 dollars table got better Pen, and 2 Decks Less. I will Meet Hi-Count More often at highroller $50 table.

Questio is HOW MUCH DO I NEED for my bankroll to PLAY at $50 table for high return?

Min 50, Max 5000.
(-0.4% Game) 6D,S17,DAS, Aces Spilt once and get 1 card only, 4 tims Spilt max for other cards. Pen 85-90%

thanks

I have a $100K BR. I don�t feel comfortable at the $50 tables with those rules! According to the very quick & dirty sim that I did on CVCX, you will need to have a top bet of $900 at TC+4 to beat the game with a c-SCORE of at least 50. A c-SCORE of 50 is the lowest c-SCORE that many professionals consider a playing. You would have an ROR of 34.2% with your current bankroll.

I also used CVCX to quickly figure out what BR you need to play all at the $50 tables, According to CVCX, the proper bankroll for a 5% ROR would be roughly $58,000.

So, Either Wong only to the 6-deck, if its not NME, or Wong only to the 8-deck games. I don't think you can beat an 8-deck game by using a play-all approach. The 6-deck game is way above your current BR.

So, that leaves only a few options.
Team play
Wong only
Work for a bigger bankroll
Decided to fly to a better venue (LV) and play a ton during your junket. (If you get a super deal on air fare, you could find a much better game with that BR in other places.)
Many other choices, but none of them are a play-all situation at this time with your BR. All of this is of coarse IMHO.

One More Thing, Spend $150 on a simulator. I think it was one of the best investments into my game.

-Not Me Nope

thanks for your help~~ where can i buy the simulator and is it easy to use and very helpful?

shady11,

The premier program for BJ simulation is the Casino Verite suite from QFIT. Click on the link below to visit the website.

I have been using this software for years, and my investment has been returned many times over with this excellent product.

Dog Hand

Does it has Shuffle Track? (include American casino 6,8 decks shuffle track)

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CVBJ - V4, CVData & CVCX Price $270 (save $45) Would be my choice. Most shuffles aren�t trackable anymore, so CVShuffle may not be too useful to you.

CVBJ is simply the BJ best trainer out there. CVCX and CVData are great and I would definitely get both. Norm has great support if you buy it from him directly. I use the complete suite.

There are other options, as well. BJ21 sells PBA. Over at blackjackforumonlie.com the bishop likes the free simulator, PowerSim. I have never used it or seen it.

I will warn you; CVCX and CVData are not that user friendly to a novice or beginner. The terms may be foreign and instructions on how to use the software are virtually non-existent. At first I thought that this sucked. After a huge learning curve that took way too many weeks, I understood all of the features of the software and I was building counting systems and making modifications to current systems.
I love the fact that I had to learn it all.

With that level of knowledge, I have been able to modify my game �on the fly�. Understanding the basic principals of this whole thing has really been a huge asset. I absolutely know that I would not be playing at my level if I had not learned to use CVData & CVCX.

By learning to use the software, you will learn about the theory of BJ. This can�t possibly do anything except improve your game. You also need to have read Blackjack Attack by Don Schlesinger. Most of the terms and the rest of the basics are found there, rather than in a software manual. What books have you read?

I hope this helps.

-Wylie