eternal odds

Lets suppose that we are playing before BJ Roulette and i win.
I played negative EV game and i won in spite of everything.

Lets suppose that i promise myself that i never play roulette anymore.
Did I cheat roulette and i can say that i beated roulette ,or
odds are transfered to the BJ table .
So what ever i did in roulette table(won or lost) I lost money in long term?

Their is no mystical force that "transfers" odds from one game to the next. You could say you beat roulette. Or at least you quit while you were ahead. Whatever you want. It has no bearing on your results in blackjack.

One common gambler's myth is that a person is "due" for a big loss or a big win following a steak of good or bad "luck." That simply isn't true. Each gambling "event" is independent of any events that preceeded it, assuming a fair game is being offered. In roulette, it is every single turn of the wheel. In blackjack, it is at the least every deck or shoe. Since the cards have memory, past events do affect future events, but only for the life of the deck or shoe before the shuffle.

You recently posted that you went through an unusual losing streak. Your odds of repeating that streak are exactly the same the next time you sit down at a blackjack table as they were when you started the first streak. Your odds of having a similar event on the winning side are also exactly the same as they were before your losing streak started.

The past is no predictor of the future when it comes to the odds of independent events. The odds don't change, no matter what happened in the past.

I agree that odds are fixed ,when u have havnt done bet.

Lets say i I bet black box in roulette and i lose(i play first time )
I do second bet in black or red box
U claim that my odds are 16/37
No it isnt!My odds are 1008/1369 if we take consideration last bet.Its odds multiplying

I agree that odds are fixed ,when u have havnt done bet.

Lets say i I bet black box in roulette and i lose(i play first time )
I do second bet in black or red box
U claim that my odds are 16/37
No it isnt!My odds are 1008/1369 if we take consideration last bet.Its odds multiplying

No, your odds are precisely the same as they were for the first hand, which for roulette even payout bets on a European wheel are 18/37, or 48.65%. You can calculate the odds of receiving a black or red number over several hands, but those odds are only good once. No matter what happens on the first spin, the odds of the same thing or something different happening on the second spin are exactly the same as they were for the first spin. At the start of any series, one can calculate the odds of certain events occuring, but those odds and that calculation are only good once. For instance, you have a 48.65% chance of hitting a black number once. You multiply that by 48.65% and you know that you have a 23.67% chance of hitting black twice in a row. However, after one spin of black, your chance of hitting black again reverts to 48.65%. Your chance of hitting red is also 48.65%. Your chance of hitting the 0 is 2.7%. Nothing changed. In fact, odds multiplying simply confirms what I am saying. The odds of any series of independent events occuring are simply the odds of each event multiplied by the odds of the next event. The odds of the next event cannot change, or the multiplication wouldn't work. If black pops up ten times in a row, the odds of black popping up the 11th time are exactly the same as they were the first time the wheel went into action. Nothing changed.

How on earth would the ball and the wheel know whether or not you bet on the first hand? The fact that you lost or won a bet has absolutely nothing to do with what will happen the next time the wheel is spun.

Your odds of repeating that streak are exactly the same the next time you sit down at a blackjack table as they were when you started the first streak.

True for a computer. However, some people play more loose when they are winning and more perfect and strick when they have been losing. Maybe it's just a natural occurance in all people when times get tough or the opposite. Thus, there can be a varible in that regard. I will admit to doing this to a degree and even more so a few years ago.

Privador, you have quite a few misconceptions about blackjack theory and probabilities in general.

I've noticed that you practically never post in any threads except ones you initiated. Are you reading the other threads? There is a wealth of education in many of them.

Quite some time ago, several posters here advised you to read some of the basic but highly reputable books on blackjack. Have you done this?

Get yourself a copy of Professional Blackjack by Stanford Wong and/or a copy of Blackbelt in Blackjack by Arnold Snyder. (The third edition is now available.)

Set your preferences to go back quite some time on this site, and scan through the subject headings. You will find many threads with topics that interest you. Read them.

You'll save yourself (and us) a lot of trouble.

Except I'm pretty sure that Privador is a an alias of someone associated with bj21.com. He posts under the guise of ignorance to stir up traffic. That's why his topics cover such a wide range. It's always something new with Privador.

Dave Matthews used to do the same thing, "naively" asking about the value of Green Chip about once a month or so under various handles just to get free endorsements from members there. Free advertising for the "pay" portion of the site.

This post will be deleted soon. Bet on it.

I doubt what you say is true, but it IS possible. However... if this post disappears, it would CONFIRM just what you suggest. I don't think that is going to happen. :)

Those who can count, and those who can't.

The longer it stays, the more people will know.

BTW, there's nothing really wrong with the practice. It's just a variation of guerrilla marketing. It happens all over the Net. I just hate to see people invest time in lengthy or involved responses to the posts.

I have no idea if T-Man is a willing participant, but bj21 got the desired result, anyway: Let our visitors plug the site's products and services, so SW doesn't have to shove the merchandise down our throats on a regular basis.

I've posted about it here before on other occasions, too, quite a while ago. All those other posts were deleted. Who knows? This might be the exception. It sure wouldn't be the first time I've bet and lost. :)

That is supposed to say:

"there are 10 kinds of people, those that know binary and those that don't"

:)

there are 10 kinds of people. Those that know trinary, those that don't, and those that think we need a life.

>The longer it stays, the more people will know.

That's right Arnold! It has already lasted long enough that BJ21 has now got to leave it. It's been read too many times.

>BTW, there's nothing really wrong with the practice. It's just a >variation of guerrilla marketing. It happens all over the Net. I >just hate to see people invest time in lengthy or involved responses >to the posts

I agree ! ! ! I've seen that a lot. I have no problems with that either IF they keep that FACT from being known. If what you say is true... they DIDN'T keep that from being known. Kinda stupid... but I still have no problem with it.

>I have no idea if T-Man is a willing participant, but bj21 got the >desired result, anyway: Let our visitors plug the site's products >and services, so SW doesn't have to shove the merchandise down our >throats on a regular basis.

I followed T-man through his "unsettling" with RGE (if he is Michael B. if I remember correctly.) I took it as he was telling the TRUTH and that was that. He was treated badly. Then came the "patch-up" where I thought he was admitting that Victor and he had worked things out. Every since though... things have been shakey at best. I still think he is basically telling the truth, but I KNOW he still has some bones to pick that just may bias him... though that is not clear.

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I followed T-man through his "unsettling" with RGE (if he is Michael B. if I remember correctly.) I took it as he was telling the TRUTH and that was that. He was treated badly.

T-Man has been spreading reprehensible lies for over a year. Just today he posted a set of lies on bjfonline where no one can respond without being censored. Last month he posted that I am committing a fraud on the public on cc.com knowing that I am not allowed to respond there. The simple fact is that he has an obsession with a former employer. This obsession is so severe that he is now trashing anyone even slightly associated with his former employer. He even suggested BJA is a bomb. In doing so, he is putting his desire to satisfy his hate above the good of the community and advising new players to make bad decisions. It has been over a year now. He needs to get over this obsession.

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