dudes lets call it a day

hey i love positive thinking but these progressionist dudes are taking it to insanity.

therefore OddBallis going naziesque and pleading "do not respond to progresionist posts!"If no one answers then they will get bored and hopefully fuck off!

these freaks ARE TRYING TO UNDERMINE THE BEAUTIFUL WAVES SHINING FROM THIS BOARD

Let us get back to meaningful BJ discussion and ignore these weirdos!

I would like to start a boycott of all these freaks NOW!

Ignore them,as you would your local neighborhood weirdo!

if you would tone down your language. Ladies read this site also.

Hello? What century are u living in tit?
Ladies get offended by the F word.?
Maybe your baby sits at home knitting your willy warmer.but in the real world you would be eaten alive by the honeys.
My honeyz are havin a good laf at what u said.
That is a sexist statement and i hope you retract it!

If you want respect from the regulars on this site,then you must first have respect for yourself. Using foul language with no purpose will not cut it. I second Titaniumman's request to tone it down. This is not junior high school my friend.

Frenchman

Listen Mary poppins.I will express myself in my own way.If u dont like it then go back to sunday school

"Let us get back to meaningful BJ discussion and ignore these weirdos!"

Your Mary Poppins remark makes me angry, but instead of trading insults let me offer some advice. This board works best in an atmosphere of mutual respect. Your manner of expression is humorous and colorful. I enjoy your exuberance. It's possible to be all that without using "fuck" or other nasty language. You seem to be on the right track for advantage play, but being offensive and insulting won't go far here.

Mother blue, we would like some input here. I suppose that the freakin' language that oddball favors is offensive to some, but I have to inveigh that this selective 'censorship' is bulls**t..

I think some of us have graduated to the 21st century, but my definition of offensive has to do with content, not context.

I would stand behind any comments that Ima, Mother, or any other ladies would suggest as to guidelines. I think that odd has touched on a point worth developing...as to what constitutes 'offensive.' He wasn't cursing, just being creative. His squeeze thought the whole idea was laughable, so there is one vote for freedom of speech. I saw nothing illegitimate in his posts so far.

I have heard progressionists called worse on green chip.

Calling someone an a**hole is something else entirely.

scobee

I have found that folks pay less attention when you raise your voice or use profanity.

Regards,
adhoc

I would respect it even more, if you would spell it correctly.

I think your'e pulling our chain pal.

Frenchman

on what room you are playing. I know this is not the 'Comedy Store' by a stretch, and I agree that oddball could be more respectful.

People think he is a troll, and I don't think so. He defended himself while toning down the process of profanity.

I saw a lot of f**ks on Parker's pages recently. It seemed to me that some perjorative bias was being used here. I think oddball wants to keep this audience, and not in a Cant-Puiu kind of way.

Regards,

scobee

should heed his opinions and statements.

I have enjoyed your posts but back off on the language

an apology to Frenchman is in order

"I saw a lot of "f**ks" on Parker's pages recently

Not only is that irrelevant (and what you read was intended as humor)...but that has no bearing here.

Perhaps you haven't been around long enough to recall the likes of CameramanJoe, The Siphon, or even Dr. Wogga. They were beyond disgusting!

That someone has to post in a manner as Oddball does to seek some cheap stimulus or response from an "audience" is unacceptable. Is he to be considered a performer on stage?

Profanity perhaps has a place, but certainly not here on a regular basis. There are those who read these pages who will eventually get turned off, stop posting, and sure as God made little green apples, the page will begin to deteriorate like in the past.

That you openly support this crap is not only surprising to me, but disappointing as well! Cannot someone make his/her point without acting like a child or think they're in a private room with a bunch of friends who just talk trash? This ain't the Soprano's.

I fully support the points of Titaniumman, Frenchman, Adhoc and El Lobo. All premiere posters who have been around for much longer than me, and I've been here close to 4 years.

I suspect that at some point when our new "Dr Wogga" flames out, and BJ21 Adminstration gets enough complaints about his verbiage, that he, like Frank Stanton, PUIU, Clark Cant et al, will wake up one day and find they're unable to log on...and good riddance.

Post, but post with courtesy, respect, and having something to say. If you need to post to and "audience", you're on the wrong page.

Time for Oddball to clean up his act and realize he is not the Captain of this board, and his extremely boorish behavior will only find him slowly sinking into the sunset.

Regards,
Wildcard

many many of us live in a world that we know has faults,yet,
we live to improve on it and try to make life better,for ourselves and others.
there are those,like yourself,and your "ladies",who care only about themselves.
go right ahead and talk like you want,make yourself look like the sad person you really are.and feel good about being with those people
just like yourself.
the rest of us will wash off when we are forced to be in your presence,
like in a public place with our kids,on a bus,or at a movie theater,
listening to gutter mouth trash talk,listening to you trying to make yourself sound important and "respectful".
we wont mind.
And the minute the teacher scolds your child in class for saying fxxck you,well be right there to watch as you sue the teacher and try to have her fired for trying to teach your child a decent way of life.
Well all watch on the eve news as you scream in the court room,"no one would give me a muthafxxking job,,GIVE ME MY REXPECT!!!" as they haul you off to jail screaming and crying.
and,as we work hard,and honestly,and willingly pay our taxes,to support those like yourself,who dont really grasp the fact that
other people live in the world besides yourselves.
life goes on,my friend,weather you like it or not.
and while your crying,"i aint got no respect",take a ,long hard look at those who do.
No one gave it to them for being inconsiderate of others,
thats for sure.

You may be right about history repeating itself here. My association with Bj21 is relatively brief in comparison with other members. I think we are all 'playing to an audience' on discussion boards, whether we affirm it openly or not. It just so happens that oddball is from a different culture than the social group you feel most comfortable with. It is true that rules of conduct apply to internet discussion groups or they dissolve into a muddy priasma.....whatever that means. But I also think that pre-emptive strikes are fascist and unnecessary. To say "Time for Oddball to clean up his act and realize he is not the Captain of this board, and his extremely boorish behavior will only find him slowly sinking into the sunset." seems to me a little harsh for someone who was being jokey and inclusive in all his previous posts....and let's face it, he is anti-progressionist.

I am not an advocate for profanity. As I remember, the offending post had one small bone of contention...oddball asking the progressionists to leave us alone to talk blackjack...and 'f**k off.'

Is this the spark that will create incendiary chaos and start the deluge of disgusting remarks to ruin the entire site? I think not.

Your esteemed colleagues may profess that profanity and disrespect are not welcome here. This is indisputable. What has occurred in my estimation, is a selective reading of oddball's style and a piling on of opinions and intimidating remarks, because he is seen as a dangerous element.....and has nothing to do with his choice of words. How convenient and ironic that his choice of phrase, in the context of telling progressionists where to go, has now become a crusade. If y'all are correct about oddball, I will look pretty silly defending him, now won't I?
You could be right and oddball is today's equivalent of those sorry and disgusting predecessors, I will be happy to eat crow if that turns out to be the case. And so we learn...

I respect each and every one of the posters you cited in trying to add credence to your thesis...and am duly intimidated by the gravity of the situation and the panel of senators. :)

If I am guilty of being a poor judge of character, so be it. I think this is merely a case of selective discrimination and having a personality on this site who makes people nervous with his writing style. Mostly I had to defend oddball, against my better judgement, because all of a sudden these 'Profanity must be eradicated!' posts were flying, even with the evidence that what oddball actually said was obviously a misdemeanor that goes uncommented on with other posters every day. I don't think oddball should have to pay the penalty for Dr. Wogga's excesses.

I love the banter and individualism of the free pages. Just what are we trying to protect here anyway.... the stiff, gray chorus of civility? I think you guys have over reacted.

On the other hand, I now know more about Al Gore and the internet through your debate with Maverick than I ever thought possible. Not so gray after all. I think the real question here is "should we cut oddball some slack?" or is his profile too disrespectful to our august body of designated green chip referees?.

This is the free board, after all. Wildcard....Maverick....El Lobo....Titman...scobee...adhoc...do these names sound like a panel in powdered wigs? I say, give him enough rope and he will either hang himself or lasso and hog-tie the bull.

and as Dennis Miller often says..."That's just one man's opinion, I could be wrong...."

scobee

I care not to engage in ongoing dialog over this subject, but do want to clear a few things up for you.

Oddball's recent reference to Don Schlesinger as "Donny Baby" will not endear him to those that not only know Don personally, but hold Don in very high esteem for his Blackjack knowledge.

Oddball's recent penchant to use the word "fuck" in different forms does not enhance his posts nor his persona. I would venture to say the majority find his usage in a negative context. Unlike your pointless reference to the recent "y'all" fun discussion on another board. And yes, there are women who read these pages...save the trash talk to impress your friends, not here, it simply doesn't belong.

That you choose to defend Oddball is your business...we all have opinions.

That I post (if I understand you correctly) jokey and inclusive in all previous posts, that you think I'm now being a little harsh is bullshit. Like you, I have an opinion...my opinion is that the excessive use of the word "fuck", and to demean a person of Don Schlesinger's character is wayout of line!

I assure you, I don't need the posters I cited to add any credence to my thesis. I am very capable of standing on my own...if you re-read what I wrote, you will find that it says "I fully support the points of Titaniumman, Frenchman, Adhoc, and El Lobo".

"I don't think Oddball should have to pay the penalty for Dr. Wogga's excesses". Ah, just what penalty would that be? Wogga was a notorious flamer, and Oddball seems to emulate some of Wogga's characteristics...thus my comment.

As for Al Gore...my debate with Maverick was pointed but respectful. It doesn't take too much to understand what Gore is about...no, I don't care to go there anymore. Please notice the huge "L" on Gore's forehead. God help us all if he ever gets elected to the big chair.

Finally...Oddball can post as he wishes, from tie-dye to cool dude. Matters not to me...however, his vulgarity is the issue and in my book has absolutely no place on this board.

I think BJ21 has gone through a great ordeal to put Free back together. At some point I suspect should Oddball continue with his "fuck-fest" he will indeed lose his password.

I will not comment further, you have your opinion, you just read mine.

Regards,
Wildcard

GREAT POST!!!!