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RobbieT

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Oct 10, 2019, 8:58:02 PM

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Do casinos keep a true count calculation on their blackjack tables while monitoring? It would be an easy thing to do for them and would easily help them to identify the card counters as they raise bets with the true count.

Baddog12008593

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Oct 11, 2019, 12:14:30 PM

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I have been in 1 surveillance room when my host wanted to chat and wanted to see a surv person at the same time. This was a few yrs ago. I was surprised to see about 30 screens on the wall and no one paying any attention. The views of the tables was not so great. I assume they could expand of better focus any view. Also on several occasions I have seen disputes over a payout or the like where the pit person returns and tells the player they cannot see the event because - glare on tape - event not screened - camera focused elsewhere - surveillance down. Counting distracts from all other efforts that can be made.

barry

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Oct 20, 2019, 9:53:14 AM

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Game quality has deteriorated overall to the point the above question should be a non issue

The Stereotypical Card Counter

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Nov 7, 2019, 10:48:34 PM

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I have been in 1 surveillance room when my host wanted to chat and wanted to see a surv person at the same time. This was a few yrs ago. I was surprised to see about 30 screens on the wall and no one paying any attention. The views of the tables was not so great. I assume they could expand of better focus any view. Also on several occasions I have seen disputes over a payout or the like where the pit person returns and tells the player they cannot see the event because - glare on tape - event not screened - camera focused elsewhere - surveillance down. Counting distracts from all other efforts that can be made.

by: Baddog12008593

Why would the casino not be able to clearly read the cards and chips on the layout? Aren't casinos required by law to clearly distinguish such information at the tables on camera (Source: Vegas Revealed Travel Channel)?

Rick Secks

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Nov 19, 2019, 5:58:02 PM

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Ive worked in the Casino industry for over 15 years and 7 of those in surveillance. Nothing like you mentioned above exists. If there are red flags on a certain individual a competent surveillance observer will manually count you down and track you. But like I said there has to be some real red flags i.e. winning a shit load. 97% of casino personnel are clueless

PIESQ

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Nov 19, 2019, 6:15:51 PM

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I am a PI attorney and I feel like I'm being jerked around by the Peppermill Casino in Reno, NV. Would there ever be a bank of slots that doesn't have a camera covering it? There is something I need to see but the casino has only provided me with bad camera angles.

belairgold@aol.com

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Nov 27, 2019, 3:45:25 PM

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There are often banks of slots without camera coverage. In Nevada, even if the casino does not do it on their own, the state generally requires camera coverage on linked progressives like Megabucks. I don't know what the state requires and what casinos have internal policies on their own, but generally high denom slots or anything with a big jackpot (an in house progressive) has fixed camera coverage which means the machine is being filmed all the time.

Many of the cameras in casinos are pan/tilt they might be able to pick up a particular slot machine if aimed, but there are machines that are not on constant 24/7 coverage. Actually that would be most of them. The areas around them might have fixed coverage, but not good enough to see the results on a specific machine.

DCdeltorro

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Dec 15, 2023, 10:46:40 AM

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Ive worked in the Casino industry for over 15 years and 7 of those in surveillance. Nothing like you mentioned above exists. If there are red flags on a certain individual a competent surveillance observer will manually count you down and track you. But like I said there has to be some real red flags i.e. winning a shit load. 97% of casino personnel are clueless

by: Rick Secks

I realize this was some years ago, but I've heard some casinos have software to track counting

Sammy Boy

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Jan 1, 2024, 10:55:41 PM

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Game quality has deteriorated overall to the point the above question should be a non issue

by: barry

Couldn't agree more Barry, I hope you are doing well!

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