Black chip players have a very

difficult time with camo. I have been finding latly that there is almost no way around getting busted if you are play at $100.00 tables.
First of all, in AC everything that is not a $100.00 table is 8 decks. So if you're a black chip person, you are only going o play in the pit.
I would love to hear from my fellow BJ people how you camo in the Pit with he amount of scrutiny your under.
Another probem is, if your playing with big money you have to play with credit lines. So everybody knows who you are.
So all this trying to not get busted really don't apply to big money players.
I'd love to hear from you on this.
Thanks for the feedback in advance.

and stay away from AC while you're it.

Follow these simple tips and you may be around for some time to come.

What are you talking about? At least the last 6 times I've been to AC I've been able to find plenty of tables with 4 to 6 decks for a quarter in AC. The interesting thing is also that if you ramp up using green, they usually don't put much heat when you play four or multiples -- as long as it is green and not "black in action". Of course, the shuffle point is the critical element -- there are times when 8 decks is just as good. About a year ago, Trump Plaza was shuffling between half and 2/3 (6 decks). Last time, it was closer to 3/4 to 80% (still 6 decks). AC has a much worse reputation than then deserve, granted they don't have anything under 4 decks for now. We'll see how things pan out when the new competition comes to town.

You don't have to have a credit line. They still accept cash there. The casino doesn't believe everyone playing at a $100 table is a counter. After keeping a narrower than normal spread for a while, any decent spread is no problem.

PS. Your posts would be easier to read if you spelled correctly. Certainly in school, they taught you the difference between there, their and they're.

I've beaten casinos in AC for six figures over a couple years. One casino took 15 consecutive winning trips before they finally got me. Meanwhile I won a lot of their money plus all the comps.

'cuz I've never been
:-)
But I've never been kicked out of a Vegas casino either, and yes, I play black chips.
But, I certainly do NOT play at the $100 minimum tables--duh! Just because a table has a $10 (for example) minimum doesn't mean you can't play a higher minimum (duh again).

Of course, I don't spread much, which is one of the main things that gets their attention and when I do spread, they have literally no idea what I'm doing 'cuz I sure don't spread like one of them there cheatin' card counter types ;-)

Basically a pretty dumb post, from an obviously unenlightened one.

If you have a choice head west...good games,good wheather.

that has 4 decks is the sands. And at the 4 deck table they were using 65 pen. And 6 deck shoes outside the pits don't exist. Tell your story to someone else, I go to AC an average of 10 times a month, I live near by. So if you're going to give info, at least make it accurate. Or, subscribe to BJ FORUM and log onto RGE and get AC updates.
Which is where the 2nd problem comes in. I play with 100 thousand dollar line of credit. My minimum bet is $100 and my maximum bet is $1000. (im only a KO player, so max X 100) At a green chip table, I am the only one they keep an eye on. Because no one else is playing with these kind of numbers. So your going to tell me that I should pile up the greens in stacks and that won't attract attention. Did you really think that one through?
You say sometimes 8 decks are just as good. Really, WHEN?

were saying about cash? I alway's like people like you. You have the answer, but you don't ask the question.
Would you suggest I put the hundred thousand in a shoe box or a shopping bag.
And by the way I didn't know this was a spelling bee. Maybe I didn't go to school. Maybe I was a bad english student. Maybe I don't care. Why in the name of god would care about such a thing.
You apparently understood what I was saying, but you A. felt the need to correct me and B. you felt the need to be sarcastic. You must be a very troubled individual.

My thoughts, too. And the further attack with misinformation confirms it.

Mousie, keep the personal attacks to a minimum, please. As for your "factual" information, jeeze, you must know -- no one else can see that 8 decks won't even fit in some of the discard racks.

And yes, I pile up green at a quarter table and attract very little attention. Perhaps you need to work on your camo?

What you are saying is very true and you bascially have 3 options.

1. You go in with the attitude that you will get barred every time you play and just stick it in their face until they bar you and then move on to the next club.

2. You play a LOT of cover and make up for it in ev from getting comps. (Read Burning the Tables In Las Vegas & Comp City for more on this approach.)

3. You learn more effective techiniques than counting cards which afford better win rates and less heat.

I find it amazing that you would put up a post about black chip play on the Red pages. It strains credulity to think that someone playing seriously for high stakes, can't cough up a few bucks for a green chip membership.

Then a serious black chip player like Cotton gives you the benefit of his vast experience, and you reject it out of hand.

Finally, your subject line reveals a great ignorance. One cannot say "My risk of ruin is $100K". This is like saying "My gas mileage is 70 miles per hour." It just doesn't make sense.

Thankyou Cotton. I did not know that AC casinos were over-rating the efficiency of their traps so much!

In other posts, you claim to be playing to a $100K BR, spreading $100 - $1000. That kind of action will get you full RFB (Room, Food, & Beverage comps) at nearly any hotel/casino in Las Vegas, Tunica, etc. It is quite likely that they would even pick up your airfare.

You also claim to play AC "an average of 10 times a month," so it would appear that leisure time is not a problem.

So, why not an occasional weekend getaway to Las Vegas or Tunica? Many of the regular posters on this board are based on the east coast, and they do exactly that. The majority of them are not spreading 1-10 black, either.

There are many inconsistencies such as this in your posts.

Unless you wait until everything about those non-counting plays is precisely explained in hard cover or paperback and passes the hazing tests here etc.

By that time the time for casino-countermeasures to be in place is well at hand!

Where did you spot those???!!!
I've been playing there at least twice a week and I have never seen a 4D game in AC (except 3D at Sands).

Bart.

Ya' know Joe, only newbies,trolls,idiots,tightwads and ploppies post on the FREEE PAGES...'just cant be, no one here can POSSIBLY bet more than $5 ..no,no..no.

No respect.

I find it amazing that you would put up a post about black chip play on the Red pages. It strains credulity to think that someone playing seriously for high stakes, can't cough up a few bucks for a green chip membership.

this might be the funniest post ever written on these pages. FYI nutty professor, but most serious pros don't frequent any color pages at bj21 and there is throughout the "serious" (lol)advantage player world for various reasons, a general distaste for Wong and his cronies.

Your ever highhanded snobbishness is a perfect example of why people should not waste their money and join green chip.