wonging bet spread

I have two questions regarding wonging:

1) If someone refers to wonging using a 1-6 Bet Spread, do they mean that their first bet when wonging in is 1 or 2 units? In other words, if someone is playing all in, their bet at the same count as the person who just wonged in would be 2 units, correct? Please let me know if this is correct, or if it is flawed.

2) Does someone wonging use the same bet spread as someone who plays all in? It is my understanding that in a 6D game, the BS should be at least 1-8. Is the same true for someone who is wonging? I would assume that it is not necessary to use such a large bet spread, since every play is at an advantage. I also would assume that even though it is not necessary to use as large a BS, one would want to because of the reason that it is an advantage play. One should want to get as much money on the table as possible (without getting caught).

...if anyone could help me out with these questions, or let me know if I have some sense what I am talking about, please do so.

btw, when I say "play all" or "all in", I am talking about someone who plays full shoes and does not wong. Is the the right way to refer to someone like this?

-- Thanks, Homer J.

The term is "play all", not "all in". The latter term is from poker, where if you don't have enough chips to call or make the proper bet, you are "all in".

I don't play 6D or wong, but I know if you wong, you go in at a higher unit, and your spread is much less. This has been discussed before, and if you belong to green chip, I'm sure it's in the archieves.

BTW, a spread of 1-8 at 6D, play all, won't get you the money. Has to be at least 1-12.

Neko

If I can avoid 3 or 4 extra low cards per shoe then that 1-15 spread can be taken down to 1-8. Wonging is great and the best thing is sometimes you might just walk by a table and scope it quickly to sit down to an advantage. In this case flat betting would give you a slight edge. Some games offer excellent rules and these are great for keeping you bet colors the same, the pit is quite happy to see a small spread but what they do not know is that you are missing out on alot of small cards. You can actually Wong 1-4 at some of these games and maintain a respectable win rate.

There is an art to wonging. After a certain amount of experience you should be able to walk by a table and see 2 cards already in the discard tray and 1.5 cuttoff. You see +3 RC on the table. Should you jump in? My answer is no. This is essentially a 3.5 cuttoff game with an off the top edge not in your favor yet. Even if it does get good after you get in your cover off the top will likely eat any gains, don't bother wasting your time, keep walking to another shoe. You have to get good at gauging what kind of game you know have knowing what cards you have seen and what cards you haven't. It is the most profitable form of blackjack I ever played. Wonging is almost like taking candy from a baby. Besides what it does to Risk of Ruin is phenomenal.

Cutter

"2 cards" in the discard tray should read "2 decks", I wrote this in haste.

Cutter

a variation on wonging is to wong out to the bathroom when the shoe
goes seriously negative on the first deck or 2 dealt.

It's also less offensive to the pit or other players who might not
like you "screwing with the card sequence".

Spok