Wong Out Strategy

Hi Everyone,

Going to Vegas next week. From checking out CBJN, I can tell that the games are deteriorating fast. It seems now that casinos are hitting the soft 17 and the 6 deck good rules games (DAS S17 LS RA)are getting harder to find everyday. Hope they will still be around when I arrive.

I was wondering, how long can I last in a big casino (MGM or Mandalay Bay) with lots of blackjack tables, if I don't alternate my bets (flat betting all the way) and just walk away from the table everytime the true count goes -1. According to my simulation, this would give me a .30% advantage. Not much, but enough to keep me playing.

Can I last more than two hours at a big joint, or do they catch on fast?

Hey I am just trying gauge things before my first big counting trip. No need to belittle the amateur.

...you will more likely get beat up by a ploppy who's irritated with you getting up from the tables all the time long before anyone in the pits will ever care about such a strategy.

In evaluating a strategy like this, I think you should measure how much wonging-out you will do. According to the Sim that I ran, you left 75% of the Shoes.

I used SBA, and took the default of 1 player playing 1 spot. Rules were S17-DAS-LS, and 75% penetration. The IBA is about .35%, and the SCORE comes out to about 9.

Bond Trader mentioned comps. I think this is a poor strategy for comps. Many casinos will start a new rating slip for each table you play. If you only play 2 or 3 hands from a Shoe, they probably won�t even bother to write one. Even if you play for the full Shoe, they may not start writing the slip until you are part way through.

I estimate that you would complete 1 shoe an hour, on average. I would guess that you get about 10 minutes of rated time for that hour. There will no problem with your average bet, since it is flat. But you won�t get credit for your time.

I would suggest putting together different strategy, with a small (maybe 1-2) spread that does less �leaving�. You will have situation where you can play 2 or 3 partial shoes back-to-back. Then you may get credit for your bathroom breaks on your rated time.

I partially agree with Big Player regarding your longevity. If you bet green, you won�t be noticed. Even if you bet black, you won�t be noticed at the Carpet stores. But I think if your betting Purple or Orange, they would notice a guy doing so MUCH table hoping. Maybe 20 years ago they would not, but I think casinos have gotten more knowledgeable on this.