Which Jersey casinos do you prefer to take a whack at, Hilton perhaps?

Which Jersey casinos do you prefer to take a whack at, Hilton perhaps?

Before you decide, you need to see all Jersey casinos' lowdowns and make a wise decision. Here they go:

Hilton

									 

Hilton		HIGH				MAIN			 

		ROLLER				FLOOR			 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff 

									 

6 Deckers		8	$100	$6,000		5	$10	$3,000	1 

8 Deckers						27	$25	$3,000	1 

									

Yep that's an accurate report. However be aware that starting on Fridays you can't get any $5 6D games. All the 6D $5 games change to $50 games with no midshoe entry. Weekends at A.C. suck ass.

Anyone been to A.C. recently? I haven't been there since December. Any casinos other than Hilton, and Borgata that offer low minimum 6D games?

The last time I went to the Sands they took out all their 6D games and replaced them with shitty 8D games. I discovered there was a 4th floor low minimum blackjack room but it was closed. Anyone know what kinda blackjack games they have in there and when the room is open?

Sand's 4th floor low limit room is open on weekends when they raise everything on the main floor to $25 or more. Trump Taj mahal has $5 games monday thru friday mornings from about 7am (when they change the cards) until noon-ish. Not sure about weekends as I avoid weekends in AC. Bally's Wild west used to have $5 games weekday mornings as well until about 11am. The Harrah's influence has now kicked in and they only have 1 or 2 $5 games and raise them as soon as the tables are full.

Which Jersey casinos do you prefer to take a whack at, Tropicana perhaps?

Before you decide, you need to see all Jersey casinos' lowdowns and make a wise decision. Here they go:

Tropicana, the notorious casino which was sued & won by Campione for over a million dollars, but NJ Appeals Court overturned the case because of the casino political connections. Here's an example of its monsterous political power: The smoking-ban applies to every NJ public business except NJ casinos!

									 

Tropicana		HIGH				MAIN			 

		ROLLER				FLOOR			 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff 

 

6 Deckers		8	$100	$2,500					1.25~1.75 

8 Deckers						27	$10	$1,000	2~2.5 

									

35 bj tables in the Trop?

Which Jersey casinos do you prefer to take a whack at, Tropicana perhaps?

Before you decide, you need to see all Jersey casinos' lowdowns and make a wise decision. Here they go:

Tropicana, the notorious casino which was sued & won by Campione for over a million dollars, but NJ Appeals Court overturned the case because of the casino political connections. Here's an example of its monsterous political power: The smoking-ban applies to every NJ public business except NJ casinos!

									 

Tropicana		HIGH				MAIN			 

		ROLLER				FLOOR			 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff 

 

6 Deckers		9	$100	$2,500					1.25~1.75 

8 Deckers						48	$10	$1,000	2~2.5 

									

Which Jersey casinos do you prefer to take a whack at, Plaza perhaps?

Before you decide, you need to see all Jersey casinos' lowdowns and make a wise decision. Here they go:

Plaza of Ivana Trump
Plaza will overpass Borgata's 6deckers within a reasonable time
because Plaza "steals" & hires the Guru who had made the Borgata
into the best of the bests in table games.

										 

Plaza		HIGH				MAIN				 

		ROLLER				FLOOR				 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff(for the timebeing)	 

 

All 6 Deckers		11	$100	$6,000		21	$15	$1,000	1 ~ say 1.5	 

Plaza offers no 8 deckers! While Sands took down all its 6deckers from the main floor!										 

									

I will post the next casino's lowdowns later.

4) Which Jersey casinos do you prefer to take a whack, @Caesars perhaps?

Before you decide, you need to see all Jersey casinos' lowdowns and make a wise decision. Here they go:

Caesars is still the place
where HighRollers love to lose their money in it.
It is the 3rd rank casino with highest table wins.

 

ATLANTIC CITY CASINO INDUSTRY    

TABLE GAME WIN ANALYSIS (Per NJ CCC Website)    

FOR THE MONTH ENDED DECEMBER 2005 VERSUS 2004    

       INCREASE (DECREASE)    

                   2005        2004         $          %    

               

AC HILTON      $4,576,575   $7,976,766   (3,400,191) (42.6)    

BALLY'S AC     14,569,008   14,691,379     (122,371)  (0.8)    

BORGATA        24,615,500   23,974,140      641,360    2.7     

CAESARS        15,161,334   10,977,180    4,184,154   38.1     

HARRAH'S        4,834,876    3,293,301    1,541,575   46.8     

RESORTS         7,142,297    4,319,567    2,822,730   65.3     

SANDS           2,700,923    4,255,176   (1,554,253) (36.5)    

SHOWBOAT        4,420,918    3,620,076      800,842   22.1     

TROPICANA      10,341,657    9,679,918      661,739    6.8     

TRUMP MARINA    4,544,628    2,903,787    1,640,841   56.5     

TRUMP PLAZA     5,725,419    7,457,449   (1,732,030) (23.2)    

TRUMP TAJ MAHAL 19,956,513  11,782,638    8,173,875   69.4     

               

INDUSTRY      $118,589,648 $104,931,377   

However, some APs got IDed and were welcomed there no more subsequently.
Their comped dollars & privileges were revoked

									 

Caesars		HIGH				MAIN			 

		ROLLER				FLOOR			 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff 

									 

6 Deckers		12?	$100	6000?					1 

8 Deckers						22?	$15	$1,000?	2 

									

(5) Which Jersey casinos do you prefer to take a whack at , Wild Wild West Casino, perhaps?

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The good old Wild Wild West Casino was a fun place to play at, circa a decade ago. Now it's just another small casino... worst than Claridge or Sands. However, don't give this one up if you are a wonger. Also, do drop by the WWW's Virgina buffet while you are wonging there. A trivia question: Which Jersey casino is the only one that has the clock on the wall?

									 

Wild Wild West		HIGH				MAIN			 

		ROLLER				FLOOR			 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff 

 

6 Deckers		None							 

8 Deckers						18	$15	$500	2 

									

(6) Which Jersey casinos do you prefer to take a whack, at the Bally's Park Place Casino, perhaps?

Bally's Park Place Casino is one of the biggest Jersey casino, but it ranks only the 4th in table-game-wins... even Caesars beats it in ranking. A trivia question: Do you know why Caesars beats Bally? Hint: If you take a look and compare the 2 casinos' highroller pits, you will see the obvious answer.

 

ATLANTIC CITY CASINO INDUSTRY     

TABLE GAME WIN ANALYSIS (Per NJ CCC Website)     

FOR THE MONTH ENDED DECEMBER 2005 VERSUS 2004     

       INCREASE (DECREASE)     

                   2005        2004         $          %     

                

AC HILTON      $4,576,575   $7,976,766   (3,400,191) (42.6)     

BALLY'S AC     14,569,008   14,691,379     (122,371)  (0.8)     

BORGATA        24,615,500   23,974,140      641,360    2.7      

CAESARS        15,161,334   10,977,180    4,184,154   38.1     

HARRAH'S        4,834,876    3,293,301    1,541,575   46.8      

RESORTS         7,142,297    4,319,567    2,822,730   65.3      

SANDS           2,700,923    4,255,176   (1,554,253) (36.5)     

SHOWBOAT        4,420,918    3,620,076      800,842   22.1      

TROPICANA      10,341,657    9,679,918      661,739    6.8      

TRUMP MARINA    4,544,628    2,903,787    1,640,841   56.5      

TRUMP PLAZA     5,725,419    7,457,449   (1,732,030) (23.2)     

TRUMP TAJ MAHAL 19,956,513  11,782,638    8,173,875   69.4      

                

INDUSTRY      $118,589,648 $104,931,377   

Here's the lowdowns:

								 

 

 	 

Bally's Park Place		HIGH				MAIN			 

		ROLLER				FLOOR			 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff 

 

6 Deckers		9	$100	$2,500					1.5~2 

8 Deckers						23	$15	$1,000	2 

									

I will post the next casino's lowdowns later.

(7) Which Jersey casinos do you prefer to take a whack at, Claridge Casino, perhaps? Before you decide, you need to see all Jersey casinos' lowdowns and make a wise decision. Here they go:

									 

Claridge		HIGH				MAIN			 

		ROLLER				FLOOR			 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff 

 

6 Deckers		4	$50	$2,500					1 

8 Deckers						10	$10	$1,000	2 

									

(8) Which Jersey casinos do you prefer to take a whack at, Sands Casino, Perhaps? Before you decide, you need to see all Jersey casinos' lowdowns and make a wise decision. Here they go:

Just like Claridge (say 99.9999% similarity),
Sands backoffs almost every AP
by halfshoeing or by threatening with nasty stuff.
The following snapshot of MICHAEL PRITCHARD's news article
says a lot about this Casino.


...
In several instances, AP1 was verbally abused by casino floor people.
In two of the three casinos
a floor person was specifically assigned to follow AP1
and his partner AP2 through the casino.
Only one casino allowed AP1 and AP2 to play without a hassle.

The most dramatic reaction came
when AP1 and AP2 entered the Sands Casino Hotel.

They were spotted by floor people almost immediately.

Admittedly, the two headed for a section of the casino
where they knew floor people would recognize them

The mood of the casino changed quickly.
Two floor people kept tabs on every move the counters made,
even following them through the casino
though AP1 and AP2 jumped frequently from table to table.

At one point a floor person openly yelled at AP1 and AP2
as he was placing the cut card, which usually tells the dealer
when to shuffle, into the card shoe.

"Do it right or get the hell out of here," he said.

AP1 has a habit of sawing the card into the deck
instead of quickly placing it in.

The two had a slightly heated exchange
until AP1 placed the cut card into the deck
to the floor person's satisfaction.

The floor person also yelled at AP2
for attempting to play two hands at the table,
a courtesy usually extended to players.

"I told you, you play one hand or none at all."

Even a bystander watching the exchange wasn't safe
as the same floor person rudely told him
he'd have to step back form the table
if he wasn't going to place a bet.

After the bystander moved back 12 inches into the aisle,
the floor person positioned himself to block the table
from the bystander's view.

Jim Wise, a spokesman for the Sands, said
Morse's visit was recorded int the casino's day-to-day logs.

"I'm not going to dispute whether anyone actually yelled at anyone,"
said Wise. "I would just say that many of our personnel
are completely frustrated with dealing with the counters.
They are the ones who get abusive.
They are far from our regular customer.
They sit there and threaten to sue
and claim they are being cheated
and that people will lose their jobs.
It's not easy to just sit there and take it."

Wise said floor personnel may have asked
the bystander to move from the table
since counters often employ a third person
using a mechanical device, such as a small computer,
to assist in the counting.
Such devices are illegal in casinos, Wise said.

AP1 said such behavior is typical of all the casinos,
but said the Sands is especially nasty.

"Did I do anything to provoke that treatment?
I just sat down to play blackjack.
I did nothing that gives them the right to treat me like that."

According to Farnz,
the Casino Control Act has no rules against rudeness topatrons.

"If we were operating a store,
the consequences would be that the customer wouldn't come back,"
said Wise. "If the price of all this is that counters don't come in,
believe me, we can deal with it.

"What's important is that
this is in no way how we treat our regular customers,"
he said. "We have people who win hundreds of thousands of dollars
and never get treated like that.
The counters largely bring it on themselves."
[My personal comments:
Yikes, Sands thinks it'S ok for players
to win hundreds of thousands of dollars by luck,
but it's NOT ok for players to win by counting cards!]

									 

Sands		HIGH				MAIN			 

		ROLLER				FLOOR			 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff 

									 

6 Deckers		6	$50	$2,000					1 

8 Deckers						24	$10	$1,000	2 

Note:									 

While Plaza improves its games by switching from  8deckers to all 6deckers,									 

Sands screws its own games by doing the opposite of 									 

of whatever it is Plaza is doing!									

(9) Which Jersey casinos do you prefer to take a whack at, Resorts Casino, Perhaps? Before you decide, you need to see all Jersey casinos' lowdowns and make a wise decision. Here they go:

									 

Resorts Casino		HIGH				MAIN			 

		ROLLER				FLOOR			 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff 

 

6 Deckers		6	$50	$5,000					1.5 

8 Deckers						27	$10	$1,000	1.5~2 

									

						 

Turning Stone Casino (Updated by Mr. Flash, as of 03/02/2006)						 

Rules: Soft17, Doubledown after splitting permitted on shoe games						 

On 2 deckers. NO Double after split. One hand only.						 

						 

		      Table	Min	 Max		DecksCutOff 

 

2 Deckers		2	$100	$1,000		1~1.2 

6 Deckers		1	$100	$1,000		1.75~2 

8 Deckers		67?	$10	$500		2~2.5 

 

						

(10) Which Jersey casinos do you prefer to take a whack at, Taj Casino, Perhaps? Before you decide, you need to see all Jersey casinos' lowdowns and make a wise decision.

									 

Taj Casino		HIGH ROLLER				MAIN			 

		& Roped-off area				FLOOR			 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff 

									 

6 Deckers		21	$100	$5,000					1 

6 Deckers						10	$25	$1,000	1.5~2 

8 Deckers						21	$15	$1,000	1.5~2 

									

The final fours of Jersey casinos' lowdowns

I just finish this thread of casino lowdowns.
Let's help each others by updating the lowdowns whenever you see fit for years to come.
Note: Some healthy competition among casinos is great for APs.
So far we get 2 casinos gone all-6deckers. I predict that more casinos will jump on the bandwagon.
Also the "optional" hitting soft 17 rule will come to town, but the competition spirits (from Borg, Plaza, Taj, Hilton, etc) will defeat that rule.

									 

11						MainFloor			 

Showboat		HIGH ROLLER pit				&"Blue" Pit			 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff 

 

6 Deckers		8	$50	$6,000					1.5 

									 

8 Deckers						21	$15	$1,000	2 

									

									 

12									 

Marina		HIGH ROLLER				MainFloor			 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff 

 

6 Deckers		11	$50	$3,000					1 

6 Deckers-none in main floor									 

8 Deckers						16	$5	$1,000	2 

									

									 

13									 

Harrah's Casino		HIGH ROLLER pit				MainFloor			 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff 

 

6 Deckers		12	$25	$6,000					1 

8 Deckers						10	$15	$1,000	2 

									

									 

14									 

Borgata Casino		HIGH ROLLER & Whale pit				MainFloor			 

Location--:>		Table	Min	Max		Table	Min	Max	DecksCutOff 

 

6 Deckers		14	$100	$6,000					1 

6 Deckers						41	$5	$3,000	^+-1 

8 Deckers, NONE! Borg's huge success in table games is credited to  the Zman-like-Guru.									 

That Guru is so good that Plaza Casino "bribes" & hires him over there now!									 

See below for a snopshot of the Guru's  credentials.									

The AC Hilton is running a promo, new players card members will get their slot losses refunded up to 3k in the form of three vouchers 1/3 paid monthly may, june, july.

That's the rough details from the website. For the fine print it requires a hotel visit. Its a far drive for me and will be a really long ride home if I convince my wife to go only to find the deal has some loophole killing it.

Can anyone in the AC area verify this deal or if you are at the hotel grab a copy of the terms and email me a copy of the scan?

The questions I have:
1-What is the max loss refunded? 3K?
2-What are the terms of the refund vouchers, can they easily be changed into cash or are there more terms attached to them.

I'll host the image if you want to post it.

Thanks all I appreciate it.