Hi,
I already did a search but had no luck. Can somebody give me a nice link that teaches the KO card counting system in detail? I tried learning High Low but the whole converting to true count is quite gruesome as my maths is really poor. Additional links to blackjack tools to improve my game will be great! By the way, in this country (Malaysia) its hard to find specific books or I would have gotten the book.
Thank you for your time.
I do not think that there is a website on the internet that teaches KO. Why don't you just order the book from BJ21? You can also learn a little more information about the KO system as well as download a free trial version of the KO training software at the KO website. Here is the link:
Stan I recently bought KnockOut Blackjack after downloading the demo and reading the KO Rookie page on their site. Bit disappointed with the software as it seems you must also buy the book to understand the KnockOut Preferred system unless you are already familiar with indices etc.
To be honest I find Super Blackjack a better product and you can key in the KO settings from the KO Rookie page.
If you are really serious then you should be looking at something like Casino Verite. One of their counting methods supplied is the OK system which appears to be the same as the KO method.
I tried download casino verite software, but everytime I do so, I fail to install it. It says not compatible under windows or something like that.
CV is compatible with all versions of Windows since 1995.
It's on par with KO (actually, stronger according to BJA) and I find it to be simpler, particularly if you are playing a wide variety of games.
You can find it at:
And if you check a few recent posts on the main page, you should be up and running in no time.
Best,
Syph
(ps Please make sure you are well groomed, we have an image to maintain.)
I downloaded casino verite from http://www.qfit.com.
Red 7 seems to be quite interesting. By the way, where can I find a list of BS variations. Are they all same for all counting systems? I can just think of stand on 16 vs. 10 and on 12 vs. 3 when the count is 0 or higher.
Thanks everyone.
Red 7 seems to be quite interesting. By the way, where can I find a list of BS variations. Are they all same for all counting systems?
You will find the tables in Casino Verite. I have many times advised people to use Red7 in the past. It was a ground-breaking strategy. But it has been obsoleted by KO. Red7 has the advantage of a better pivot. But, the added aspect of taking into account the suit of the seven adds significant opportunity for error.
But KO has a better BC than Red7. With normal to larger spreads KO does outperform Red7.
Regards,
Tim
But KO has a better BC than Red7. With normal to larger spreads KO does outperform Red7.
Yes, KO with a good spread beats Red7 with good penetration or at all penetrations with SD. But Red7 very slightly wins at poor penetrations with shoes. Below is a CVCX chart of SCOREs for KO & Red7 with a Spread of 16 over all penetrations between 26 and 130 cards cut off.
According to your site at bjstats.com
6D, good pen, 1-16 spread, DAS, LS
Red 7
EV 1.31%
SCORE 46.86
N0 21342
KO
EV 1.35%
SCORE 44.72
N0 22358
However, I am looking at the NO and SCORE.
On your site, only when the penetration gets to about 90% does KO pull ahead for this game.
I think BJA2 had a small comparison between Red 7 and KO. Unless the numbers were changed for BJA3, I recall Red 7 edged out KO in many games. I tossed my copy years ago, so I can't remember the details.
In any event, there is probably very little to chose from.
Best,
Syph
