I think I would admit to liking sex with dead animals before saying I was a lawyer ;>)
I noticed DD' also had computer programmers and CPAs on his list, what a motely crew. It's no wonder casinos go to such lengths to get rid of counters.
is people from the financial industry: traders, brokers, etc. Lots of these people are high stakes card counters.
I would guess the average age at green chip parties to be around 35-40.
However, this is misleading, because there is really a wide range of ages, from barely old enough to be in a casino to retiress. The "day jobs" are equally diverse.
The majority of counters are college-educated, with many having advanced degrees, although there are exceptions (me, for example).
I am always amazed at the diversity I see at Green Chip parties. Perhaps this is why they are so much fun. :-)
There must be all types of counters out here.
1. Where do they prefer to sit?
2. What is their spread?
3. How many are on the teams?
4. Are the doctors,lawyers,stockbrokers,etc...the big players on the teams?
5. What is their usual bankroll?
6. What is the proper attire they prefer?
7. How long do they stay at the table?
8. Are there any tricks they use,if so,explain?
9. Which casinos do they prefer?
I'm just a basic strategy player, but I like to see if I can figure out who is counting cards at my table. It's just a little game I play.
You post some excellent information here. Please feel free to add any more helpful advice,thanks.
franky
1. Where do they prefer to sit?
They prefer sitting at blackjack tables. But if someone is giving away free food or drinks somewhere else, you will probably see them sitting in the front row there.
2. What is their spread?
Small when the deck is negative, large when it is positive.
3. How many are on the teams?
Between 1 to 500.
4. Are the doctors,lawyers,stockbrokers,etc...the big players on the teams?
Absolutely not. The big player has all the money so he can make the big bets. Are you going to trust a doctor, lawyer, or stockbroker with a bunch of cash?
5. What is their usual bankroll?
Usually less than what they had at some time previously.
6. What is the proper attire they prefer?
They prefer loud Hawaiian shirts and big black hats with feathers in them, but they pretty much dress like every body else so they blend in with the crowd. Although a few of the older male counters prefer long satin gowns with long white gloves. You will be able to spot them by their 5 o'clock shadows.
7. How long do they stay at the table?
They stay at the table until they get tired, or lose all their money, or are told to leave by the casino, they stay as long as the deck is positive, unitl it goes negative, or leave at some pre-determined time limit.
8. Are there any tricks they use,if so,explain?
Well, there is this one trick where the Jack of Clubs jumps out of a new unopened deck of cards and squirts cider in your ear, but the explanation is rather long.
9. Which casinos do they prefer?
They pretty much prefer casinos that offer Blackjack, but if they got some other game that can be beat, or are giving away some food, drinks, or cash, you will find them there too.
"1. Where do they prefer to sit?"
Generally at the end if they are small inexperience players or single deck. But anywhere is possible. Usually alone.
"2. What is their spread?"
Varies, but generally 1-6 with blacks on DD.
"3. How many are on the teams?"
Which team? Normally 2-6. More if they use young players.
"4. Are the doctors,lawyers,stockbrokers,etc...the big players on the teams?"
This is the only Yes answer. Also businessmen.
"5. What is their usual bankroll?"
$250,000+ 1/4kelly
"6. What is the proper attire they prefer?"
Varies, like the general big players.
"7. How long do they stay at the table?"
Until they win $3,000 or 30mins whichever is faster.
"8. Are there any tricks they use,if so,explain?"
Some high bets from start, some in bad counts, always insure, stand 16vs 10.
"9. Which casinos do they prefer?"
Any with good rules and high limits.
Feel free to ask if you want more details.
Note: These are serious answers. Everyone else is pulling your leg.
1. Where do they prefer to sit?
Usually at tables with large well padded chairs (see next question for reason).
2. What is their spread?
Usually rather large, due to a diet of comped gourmet meals, hence the preference for large chairs mentioned above. Of course, if the question is directed at Aria Giovanni, it takes on an entirely different meaning.
3. How many are on the teams?
Enough, but not too many. It has been found to be ineffective when the team players outnumber the regular gamblers in a casino.
4. Are the doctors,lawyers,stockbrokers,etc...the big players on the teams?
No. They are all full time pros. However, they may be cleverly disguised to look like doctors, lawyers, etc., as well as construction workers, shoe salesmen and porn stars.
5. What is their usual bankroll?
Depends on what kind of a day they are having. Also on whether or not they have hooked up with Aria Giovanni earlier in the day.
6. What is the proper attire they prefer?
This is the easiest way to spot a counter. Look for loud bermuda shorts, t-shirts that say something like "I lost my (picture of donkey) in Las Vegas" and fanny packs.
7. How long do they stay at the table?
Until they pass out from exhaustion, or the casino runs out of chips, whichever comes first.
8. Are there any tricks they use,if so,explain?
The ability to make oneself invisible has proven to be quite useful.
9. Which casinos do they prefer?
Counters seek out casinos that offer single deck games in which the dealer stands on soft 17, early surrender, doubling on any two cards, and doubling after splitting are allowed, and the dealer deals until only a few cards are left in the deck before shuffling. You will usually find a lot of counters at casinos with these conditions.
I hope you appreciate this, as I will probably get flamed by my fellow counters for giving away all our secrets. I am trusting you to keep this info to yourself and not to reveal it to casino personnel.
GC is kinda like high school ball.
BC like junior college.
The secure page and other "elite" groups are kinda like division II or III college ball.
DD' would be one of those pros who never made it to the big leagues.
T. Hopper. What category would he fit in?
as I'm burned out now. But what most people here think are the big leagues aren't even sand lot. I'm 3rd or 4th tier.
How about our friend "Big Player", details pleeease!
Where's my wisdom, help me Mr. Wizard ?
