true counts at different penetrations info

I want to find info reported several years ago; but I do not find it. It was about frequency of true counts at different penetrations and as I recall concerned an eight deck game in Australia.

I need only some general idea of how often different TCs appear at different points in randomly shuffled and cut packs. But it would be better to have the info for both six and eight deck packs.

I had a hard copy of the eight deck message but do not now find it either; I suspect that it was among papers which were destroyed when archives were soaked.

Please tell the info needed to find the message. Even better would be info as to where to find data as to how often different TCs appear at different points in randomly shuffled and cut six and eight deck packs.

Slot

Years ago Snyder published some handy books, "Beat the (X) Deck Game", one each for 2,4,6 and 8 deck games with various penetrations. It had what you want. Any BJ software will produce the same data. If you haven't found what you want by now post the games you need and I'll run them through SBA when I get a chance and post the frequencies.

Here's a quick Google result for "Beat the 8 Deck Game Arnold Snyder".

http://www.bjrnet.com/shop/blackjackreports.htm

$10 each is what I paid over a decade ago.

I think buying a good BJ software program is not only better but indispensable.

I put this up over the weekend, but at the wrong place.

http://www.bj21.com/boards/free/free_board/index.cgi?read=153403

Thanks.

The 8 deck game is S17, I2/1, LS2-10 (first 2 cards), RS2 (4 total), DOA, DAS 2-10, RSA, 777-3/2 (immediately), suited 678-3/2 (immediately); cut card varies from 5.5 to 6.7 decks (there is some little heat). Five or six hands, rarely only four, in play.

The 6 deck game is S17, I2/1, LS2-10 (first 2 cards), RS2 (4 total), DOA, DAS 2-10, RSA, 777-3/2 (immediately here too) (no 678 bonus) cut card varies from 1 to 3 decks (seems to keep APs away, there is *no* heat). Six hands in play nearly all the time.

Heat comments are made to confirm placement of cut card.

Slot

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If you haven't found what you want by now post the games you need and I'll run them through SBA when I get a chance and post the frequencies.

I have not found what I want in any of the several far-from-North-America places I have been since I wrote on this; no surprise in that. :-)

Please tell what information using SBA brought. Games descriptions were right above this message.

Thankfully,

Slot

---Your Message---

Years ago Snyder published some handy books, "Beat the (X) Deck Game", one each for 2,4,6 and 8 deck games with various penetrations. It had what you want. Any BJ software will produce the same data. If you haven't found what you want by now post the games you need and I'll run them through SBA when I get a chance and post the frequencies.

Slot M. Student,

Click the link below, select the count strategy you wish to use along with the rules and penetration, and you'll get the frequency of TC's. Now if you want all of this in a convenient table, you have some work ahead of you ;-)

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand

Thanks.

One of the nine sets of rules offered should be usefully close to the rules of these games. However: Penetration does not match what is found in the six deck game. So given count frequencies are of no interest. However count frequencies of only deeply dealt eight deck games are of minor interest A Wong number is required; whether or not play-all is provided for is not clear.

Accordingly it would be helpful to find the post originally referred to or to find the same information elsewhere.

I remember reading a post with a table of results with line and column headings like the following:

FREQUENCY OF TRUE COUNT

>-1 -1 -.5 0 .5 1 1.5 2 2.5 3 3.5 4&4+ *

PENE
TRA
TION

.5

1

1.5

2

2.5

3

3.5

4

4.5

5

5.5

6

6.5

7

7.5

Is that post still available. If so where do I get it? Whether or not it is available, is the information available elsewhere--away from the Americas?

* I apologize for the spacing; I used multiple spaces but the system does not use what I put in between the columns.

Slot