Trespassed First time -- AAaaaah.

been reading the forum for long but never contributed. so i was playing at a downtown high limit room with cover plays (mostly from ian anderson's) but ended up losing that night. next day , having set a good cover (I thought ) started hitting it hard with a 1-10 spread on the dd. recovered the loss and won a bit more. returned back to the same store the next day (3rd day) and was asked to leave. it was the casino manager who asked me to leave and i can't enter the property. i cashed out immediately and politely left. is this a valid tresspass? nothing to sign, no security guards , nothing read from a paper - just a verbal one and the manager was looking sad, probably coz i was cool with dealers, waitress and the bosses.

this is only my second trip to vegas and not used to these. thought it was brutal. could have left me play other games. not sure what made them so irritated. anyone knows the severity based on which they decide a back off or tresspass?

... is this a valid trespass? nothing to sign, no security guards , nothing read from a paper - just a verbal one...

It is valid. Even if you were presented with something to sign, presumably you would refuse anyway, as you should.

The store in which this likely happened has turned in recent years from a reasonably tolerant place into a sweatshop. You shoved it in their face going back so many times, forcing them to take action. I hope for your sake, lesson learned.

As Nevada resident observed, your error was in returning repeatedly during a short period. Yes, the trespass is valid. From a practical standpoint though, you are done there whether they try to arrest you for trespassing after returning or not (they probably would not, but no guarantees).

You were playing in Vegas, so this was unnecessary. There are plenty of other stores. Move around before becoming an itch that has to be scratched. Try to avoid making management look bad by allowing a known counter to sit there hammering away in a HL room day after day. If you back a manager up to a wall like that, he will jettison your playing privilege before jeopardizing his own job. That is the lesson to take from this.

Good luck in the future. There are plenty of other fish in the sea.

I may be wrong, but are there any DD games dntn w/good enough pen and h17 only w/no das to warrant only a 1--10 spread? In the old days playing Calif. Club and Sams Town, w/.9 dd cut , I never considered less than 10--150. And, if backed off, so what; it's not worth the aggravation and shit flux anyway.
Anyone disagree?

Don't play pitch games. The betting and playing variables are too rigid and transparent.

worth the trouble.

I can think of a few worth playing, but not many.

More and more, I'm playing Shoe games. Get in and out. Best opportunities for me are the extended +EV runs during a shoe.

You won't find it in CBJN latest edition.

For a location where there aren't many casinos?