If my max bet is $15, can I afford to tip at all?
How much?
When the count is high, Is it mathmatically "valid" to start a "dealer pile" and tip from the winnings off the original "dealer chip(s)"?
Does this destroy my EV or not?
thanks
Dealers appreciate tips and will think of you as "good people".
Throw a buck out there every now and then and add your tip when figuring out your ev,wins,losses,etc.
If you walk a winner you dont have to worry about tipping because they know you already have.
You can't afford any "dealer's pile". You can afford to toss the dealer a dollar at the end of a winning session perhaps. I believe in tipping but you can't afford it. One percent of your max bet is a reasonable amount to tip occasionally. And if the TC is not +3 or better then even this will likely give you negative ev for the round. Don't confuse variance with winning. A big positive flux doesn't justify over tipping. Positive and negative variance cancel each other out over the long haul. Tips come out of your win rate.
Dealers dont know you're going to tip at at the end of a session and might think of you as being some kind of tight jerk during your session. Some dealers know how to make our game difficult if they choose to do so and I'm not talking about pen only. If a dealer is giving you a fair game you should toss out a buck once in a while during the session, they appreciate it. I'm sure you can afford it.
DD' is a very succesful full time pro with many years experience at this game.
The contrary opinions offered here are by a very immature individual who left green chip after creating a great deal of animosity among
several extremely knowledgable advantage players.
Therefore you decide who is offering you sound advice. 'Nuff said.
No wonder why many experienced card counters dont post here anymore, I usually dont either but thought I might be of some help and add a little insight of what I have experienced at the tables for well over 10 years in regards to tipping. I have not criticized you for giving your "easy" answer,have I?
Depending on what we are trying to achieve-- what works well for one individual- may not work as well for another. You are trying to compare two individuals (DD and I) who have totally different goals and concepts of blackjack,you are also trying to rehash a dispute that I had on GC which was very controversial. It is my understanding DD' started playing serious blackjack about 4 years ago and has a short term goal of getting barred out of all casinos by betting big in hopes of a nice return of profit. If this were my goal I probably wouldn't care to tip either.
My goal is to enjoy a modest edge of profit for years to come, so far I seem to be doing fine.
I wonder...what our game would be like if all card counters had a reputation as arrogant jerks who are tightwads that never tip, enough said?
I think sooooooo.
If I have had a good result (for example dealer busts on my two spots at max bet with maybe a double on one, or after a really good shoe in multi-deck), I will throw a tip their way, and say to him/her: "It's up to you - keep it or play it?"
I have found most dealers will smile, and play the tip. By letting them make the choice, you aren't forcing them to make their money by the results of your hand (as you would by just playing the toke), and they get the chance to gamble from the other side of the table.
Almost always I get thanked for the toke, even when they lose. It also is good for cover as you interact with them.
...who I humbly admit know more than I, and from whom I gain knowledge.
I quote from a highly respected member (MP) here who posted in an earlier thread:
"Personally, I support DD's point of view. I believe that DD' is the premier poster of our time. He has done more to help BJ players, including me, than anyone else. His advice is invaluable, and the readers here should be grateful that he unselfish(ly) shares it on
this board."
I post this ONLY in the hope it will give {I wonder} a realistic perspective. Trying to convince you of anything is a total waste of time. Post what you will - I won't respond further to your drivel.
