I have played hard for a year. But on Feb-27th I got laid off so I went full time. Full time to me is three days a week 4 to 6 hours a day.I bought a list from this site( which everyone should get) so that I would only play the best games. I only play pitch games with no higher advantage than .19. I have earned on average $1200.00 per week after exp. I have yet to see counting work for me yet.I use the tko count. The count has gotten as high as 20 and I still lose. My winning happens by table hopping. As a matter of fact if I relied on counting I would have gone broke. I guess what Im saying is seeing is believing and I haven't seen it yet.