Roulette Prediction - Laurence Scott

Let me start by saying that I believe that roulette is an unbeatable game. To this day have never seen any evidence of the contrary. The fact that there is not a roulette section on the green chips forum is an indication that not too many serious players believe in the system.
But

I saw the Laurence Scott system for roulette prediction selling at another web-site.
On the product description it has praises from both Stanford Wong and Arnold Snyder plus the software is made by the maker of Casino Verite (a super product).
I have also read on different forums that basically all roulette systems are worthless ; except this one, because is totally different approach (whatever that means).

Anybody has seen or has any experience with this system ?

It seems funny that if both Wong and Snyder like the system so much; Why does neither of them sell it on their sites. Was the system proven worthless? Are there comments taken out of context ?

I am relatively new to AP so maybe I missed previous discussions on the subject.

Thanks for your answers

MT

Let me start by saying that I believe that roulette is an unbeatable game. To this day have never seen any evidence of the contrary. The fact that there is not a roulette section on the green chips forum is an indication that not too many serious players believe in the system.

Bj21 is quite a conservative forum mainly composed of people who like counting cards. I wouldn't read too much into what is and is not discussed here, either way.

I have also read on different forums that basically all roulette systems are worthless ; except this one, because is totally different approach (whatever that means).

Some explanation here: roulette systems are generally betting systems ie you change your bet size based on the results of previous spins. All such systems are based on misconceptions about the fundamental laws of probability and are therefore worthless, regardless of the specifics of the betting system.

Now, the Scott system is not like that. It not based on a foundation of sand. That is, if you could predict the approximate resting place of the spinning ball on the roulette wheel, by making an assessment of the various physical factors which govern its movement, you can make money. Edward Thorp and various other individuals have proven that, under laboratory conditions, and to a limited extent in actual casinos, using a computer it was possible to achieve a significant predictive advantage.

Scott believes you do not need the computer. His system depends on human visual perception.
I have not seen the Scott system, however, I am capable of determining the conditions and levels of accuracy required to actually obtain a mathematical advantage (most of the calculations can be cribbed from Thorp's "Mathematics Of Gambling" with a few adjustments). And, it would take a lot of work. It was obvious from my analysis that this was an extremely difficult talent to develop that could conceivably take months or even years to master. And I mean real hard study.
Such a huge amount of unprofitable downtime was not appealing to me.

I made a little money trying a simple predictive system out for fun, but my results were almost certainly 99% positive flux.

My guess would be that Scott really does or at least did make money at the tables from roulette. And probably a small minority of his most dedicated students do. But most people wouldn't have the intense dedication and talent neccessary to implement the system.

It seems funny that if both Wong and Snyder like the system so much; Why does neither of them sell it on their sites. Was the system proven worthless? Are there comments taken out of context ?

Pi Yee Press has historically been a publishing vehicle for Wong and a very small selection of other writers-it has only really expanded its product base recently. Probably Scott has some sort of exclusivity contract with RGE, official or unofficial.
I seem to recall Snyder did sell Scott's method for a while. Now there is bad blood between Snyder's site and RGE, so Snyder understandably will not promote a competing product.
The Snyder quote was not taken out of context, he was really enthusiastic. I don't recall Wong's comments on the system.

I remember seeing the show "The Takedown" on court tv where the team used a small computer which not only predicted what section the ball would land on but what number it would land on, it was very similar to what the eudamonic's team did. Seemed alot more advanced. Is Scotts system similar to this?

Or one of those shows had a Spanish team that found a bias in the wheels . They made a lot of money but never tipped and were not wanted at the casinos. I think they spent a lot of time writing the numbers down and ran a program to figure the bias.