Questions About Turtle Creek Casino & Traverse City Area

First, I was wondering if someone could give me the rules for the new Turtle Creek casino. You don't have to disclose the pen. I checked the rules in CBJN and there appears to be some errors in the rules listed. Here is what CBJN lists.

Turtle Creek (I).
Turtle Trave 2 .41 6 1.2 25 500 s17,ds
Turtle Trave 9 .54 6 1.2 5 200 h17,ds,ls

As you can see from the above both games are listed as 6 deck. I assume one of these games is a double deck game, but which one. Also if the pen is as listed it surely isn't anything to brag about. My favorite game is DD so would be interested in how many tables of DD.

Second, the Traverse City area is pretty much out of my wandering area. However, usually once a year me and my wife usually meet up with my kids in the St Ignace area. Would the Traverse City area be a good place for a family get together. Is there any nice hotels or vacation spots in the area. Any water parks etc. From checking the hotel prices at the new Turtle Creek Hotel I was shocked to see how expensive. Is everything in this area that expensive.

PS. Any resorts would have to be dog friendly.

All of the games at TC are 6 deck. As I recall, there are a couple of "handheld" games, but they pull from a six deck shoe. The top line of rules are for the high limit area, which is still six deck. There are some inaccuracies in CBJN however; for example, you can double after splitting aces, there are some $3 tables, and I believe in the high limit area mid-shoe entry is prohibited. Also, the penetration listed is inaccurate. It is actually deeper.

With regard to your other questions, I am not overly familiar with the area, as I only go there to play. There is a Comfort Inn and a Holiday Inn Express nearby. Rates are about $75 per night off peak season, but I don't know what the peak rates are. Sorry I couldn't be of more help on that.

S17 or H17 and do they all have late surrender. CBJN is very confusing on this.

You are very persistent in your old age!

H-17, LS in general-S-17 no LS in HS.

One pitch table, $5 to $50, H-17, always full, not a good game at all. Not what you would expect from a beautiful venue like this. It tells me that deep down they are Chicken S..t cowards who will probably go broke from this major investment in an economy going into DEEEP recesion. But then again the managment there has never been known for their smarts, most are addicted gamblers with drinking and personality disorders.

You should continue your action at the "Malo" place, the "Candy Store", as you are known to refer to it and when you go to see the family give them all your attention and forget about the AP action, unless you can handle the 6d shoe and family matters. You have been spoiled E.Kid with the games you play, stay in the GNW, enjoy.

You still have that pooch? Wow, must be getting older than you, EH?

AIF,
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