Question

I have access to a private game with the rules as follows.
6 deck shoe
80% pen.
double your win on BJ(not 3/2)
double any 2 cards
dealer stays on 17
split 3x
house keeps all pushes
What is the mathmatical edge , if any , on this game just useing basic stradgey?
Thnaks , V

Why bother? You might as well give them your money. My guess would be somewhere between 8-11%(no LS, I presume)Negative Expectation.

If you donate the money to a charity, at least you might have an income tax deduction while helping the less fortunate!

I've seen people get arrested for less!!!

Thanks , thats why I asked first.
V

In the majority of the casino offered shoe games the house edge is usually around 0.5% give or take.

The 2 notable changes from common rules are the house winning pushes, and we push 8-9% of the time. 2-1 BJ payout is worth 2.3% player advantage over the usual 3-2 payout.

Thus you would be somewhere around 6-7% house edge assuming usual rules other than the two noted above.

If surrender, insurance, DAS, etc aren't offered, then the house edge could be higher.

Hello Suth'n Gent

I agree with everything that you write in your submission except the title...At 6-7% house advantage, that qualifies as hopeless...Although, it is also true that Roulette has a house advantage of 5 1/2% and they never seem to have a shortage of players.

Go figure.

I like to use the following example...If we flipped coins and when you won I paid you $1.00, but when I won you had to pay me $1.06, would you play that game?

but I get to supply the coin as well as make the call... ;^)

But I can't remember where.

If house keeps "all" pushes the disadvantage is a bit better than -8%.

Good for you Suth'n Gent...Is that an example of good old southern hospitality??? [in jest of course]