plyable game?

There is a casino here in southern california, where you can get a private blackjack table if you have 2K or up. Minimum bet is $25 dollars, maximum $1000. You can play one hand or all (7?) hands anytime you wish. 2 decks, they cut it off right at the middle. Rules are liberal on double downs and just about anything else. Natural pays 6 to 5 and everytime you play you pay one dollar for every hundred you bet, is this game winnable if you go one on one with the dealer? They will also let you play bank anytime you wish. They also don't care whether you are counting or not. No heat.

6:5 and Antes are not "never worth it" I have enjoyed rather strong edges at both of them. However in your case they are not worth it. 6:5 increases the house edge by about 1.5% and the $1 for every $100 is another 1% so you are trying to beat a terrible 2.5% game with crappy pen to boot!! Unless there is some other nugget of information here the game is a waste of your time and $$$$.

If they let you play bank, (and you do) wouldn't that mean instead of beginning as a normal player (-2.5% cardcounting outsider with sucker rules,) your EV would be considerably improved? Any comments? NB

Blackjacks paying 6 to 5 PLUS a 1% commission on bets makes this game one of the worst that I have ever heard of -- BUT if you can bank this unbeatable game (with a full table no less) -- what are the procedures? I am sure that the house collects the 1% commission instead of you. IF that is the only difference -- you may have discovered a gold mine.

Please clarify the procedures re: how this game operates when it is player banked.

Let me clarify the rule about the bank. If you decide to play bank, for every 100 the casino plays, (actually 3rd party puts up the money, who is a licensed company), you have to pay 5 dollars. My questions to you guys is, why can't you play 25 min when count is bad,maybe play all 7 spots to get rid of the deck, and play big when count is good by playing two hands to dealers' one? Since the casino doesn't care whether you count or not, and they are extremly liberal with their rules, couldn't it work by going 25 a bet on negative and go big on positive, (spread of 1-40 on one hand or 2 hands at 1-40 each theoretically)

Firstly you need to be more clear as to how this game is played - your explanation about the fee charges is NOT at all clear; but to answer your question re: the use of a very aggressive bet spread.

If the rules were good it would be possible to overcome the house commission with perhaps a spread of 100 to one or more.

Your Risk of Ruin is enormous due to the amount of money at risk on any given round.

If you try this with a modest bankroll in your pocket, say $10,000, your R.O.R.is probably about 40% or so. Do you want to go belly up that easily?

A 6/5 payoff on Blackjack is the kiss of death that amateurs think that they can overcome.
generally games with H17 and 6/5 Blackjacks have an off-the-top expectation of around -1.5 to -2.0 % whereas a normal game generally has somewhere between -20 and -.80

Thank you Flash for your comments, I appreciate it. Sorry about not making the bank fee clear, I will try to do so now. No matter how much you bet per hand (5 to 1000 dollars) it is 1 dollar up to 100. Anything exceeds that you pay extra 1 dollar upto another 100. So if you bet 125 dollars, you pay 2 dollar fee , you bet 175, still 2 dollar fee. you bet 201, than your fee is 3 dollars and so on. If you want to play bank, the casino will charge you 3 dollars for that hand and you get to choose how many spots you want the casino to play. There is no fee that is charged for the spot or spots played but since someone has to put up the money, a 3rd party gets involved in the deal. So its you against the 3rd party(corporation) and for every 100 they put up to play against you as a bank, they will charge you 5 dollars for their 100 they are playing.

You say "they will charge you 5 dollars for their 100 they are playing"

That is absurd. A 5% commission charged?

A pro card counter under the best of circumstances may have an OVERALL edge of 1.5 % or better.

Noone can overcome a 5% edge. That is usurious.

If the game is +2.5% for YOU dealing the game AND you must pay a 5% fee then it is YOU who are MINUS .2.5% and not PLUS 2.5%.

ABSURD ! Should be considered a criminal conspiracy.

I hope I am understanding your question Dog Hand, you can't take the place of corporation, because if you play it regular, the bank is corporation, if you play bank, corporation is a player. You don't play against the casino, they only rent the spots to the player and bank. So it is you against the corporation, no matter which position you choose to play. Rent fee for one dollar and bank fee for three dollars go to the casino, so the casino is the only winner,with corporation close second in my opinion.

Even a pedestrian craps shooter can do better than this game.

never worth it... unless you know what the dealer's hole card is, or know when an ace is coming out or something like that.