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If I play 8-D in Foxwoods, with 1-8 spread, leave when TC goes below -1.5, what is my win rate going to be in units/hour? What if i play in AC tables 8-D but only play when TC is equal or bigger than zero. Any ideas on this? How about 6-D games in Mohegan or AC?

dontremember2222,

I used CVCX to run 8D sims for S17, DAS, LS (Foxwoods) and S17, DAS (AC) games. The counter uses HiLo, bets full Kelly to a $10K BR with a 1:8 optimal spread, and plays with three other players at the table.

I couldn't sim a Wong Out point of -1.5, so here are the -1 and -2 results:
Foxwoods Pen=6.5/8 WO=-1 Min Bet=$21 WR=$37.04=1.76 units/hr
Foxwoods Pen=6.5/8 WO=-2 Min Bet=$18 WR=$30.28=1.68 units/hr

For AC I used two pen levels: 6.5/8 and 6.0/8, with a WO at Zero:
AC Pen=6.5/8 WO=Zero Min Bet=$23 WR=$30.03=1.31 units/hr
AC Pen=6.0/8 WO=Zero Min Bet=$20 WR=$21.19=1.06 units/hr

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand

It was nice of you to run the sims. Thank you for that. I am guessing the WR would go down as the number of players increase from 4 to 7. No LS applies to all casinos in AC?

dontremember2222,

I am guessing the WR would go down as the number of players increase from 4 to 7.

Well, the Win Rate varies proportionally with the number of rounds per hour. The sims I ran assumed a constant 100 rounds/hour, which is pretty universally used, but may be wildly inaccurate depending on your actual rounds per hour. Thus, if you're actually playing 50 rounds per hour, your win rate will be half what I gave. With more players, you'll probably see fewer rounds per hour, so your actual win rate will decrease. However, the win rate per hand will be almost exactly the same with 4 players as with 7.

No LS applies to all casinos in AC?

According to CBJN, Trump Marina permits LS on its 8D games if you're betting a minimum of $50. Otherwise, no LS in AC.

Dog Hand

thanks again Dog.