Playing after being Backed Off

Just Curious, but do you return to casinos after being backed off? How long do you wait before returning? There is at least one casino I would like to return to. I play green, hit and run, and on rare occassion get backed off without causing any argument. How long is their memory for such things? Is it worthwhile to wear a hat and glasses? I have never returned simply because there are other places to play, but would like to go back to one or two of my backoffs.

to wait at least six months before returning to a store that has backed you off, IMO. And when you do return, try to play on a different shift than the one you were on when you got the tap. You might want to play smaller stakes at first, but that's just the paranoia in me, I suppose.

Above all, keep your eyes and ears open - If you see any casino personnel that you recognize from the shift that you were backed off on, do not play, just leave immediately and don't return for another six months.

As a sidenote, I would remind you to keep your sessions short, as well.

Hope this helps, and good luck to you.

Regards,
drumz1

What are the definitions of "backed off"? Do they shuffle up on you? Ask you to leave? etc... Also, the other question asked is "does it help to wear glasses and a hat"?

What are the definitions of "backed off"? Do they shuffle up on you? Ask you to leave? etc...

From the BJ Glossary:

(link: http://www.bj21.com/glossary/pages/index.html )

"Back-off". This occurs when casino personnel, usually a manager or a pit boss asks a blackjack player to no longer play the game of blackjack in that casino. It can also refer to less harsh anti counter measures, such as restricting a player to flat betting or a very small bet spread, such as a 1-2 spread.

Also, the other question asked is "does it help to wear glasses and a hat"?

It probably wouldn't hurt, although some PC's are pretty sharp, so be careful. You can buy some very good books about blackjack and methods of cover from the bj21 catalog page (Stanford Wong's "Professional Blackjack" is an excellent resource, along with Don Schlesinger's "Blackjack Attack". Also, two of our Green Chipper members have their own books for sale, as well - "You've Got Heat", by Barfarkel, and "200 Proof Blackjack", by Bootlegger).

Here is a link to the catalog page: https://secure.bj21.com/order/order1.htm

Regards,
drumz1

Thanks for the input. Does anyone else have any opinions on the length of time appropriate before returning or is it a matter hit and miss.

90% of the time, I have played successfully (under a new name) after a 6 month wait. At 3 different casinos, I was recognized immediately after a wait of more than 2 years.

If you never return, you have turned at back off into a self imposed barring.

Dr 21

I came up with a 6-month wait to return to the same casino on a different shift, and a 1-year wait to return to the same shift.

laotse