If others find this offensive .. move on now .. and save you and me the grief of you, telling me, to go away.
-------
The italicized quotes come from Radar O'Reilly ... This is the problem my coal miner friends have--the ones Sun Runner made fun of so ungraciously on bj21. I find it extremely offensive that anyone would characterize my very hard working friends as lazy because they have trouble with this process. Maybe someone can search BJ21 for me and find where I did. I've bagged on you guys plenty but it was your intial implication that OPP was so easy that even coal miners could learn it. One of my coal miner friends was laid off from the mines. In order to get a new job, he had to be able to make change--to subtract, for example, 87 cents from a dollar. I had to spend a full day with him teaching him how to do this, because he had never learned how to subtract a 7 from a 0 in the crappy public schools in this country. This friend is able to use the OPP count. Well, Bravo!! I hope this same friend will be able to keep up with all the new enhancements coming OPP's way. Otherwise, I will guarantee this friend of your's will get his small BR swamped by variance. He'll no doubt thank you later because I'm guessing this guy isn't playing for comps.
BTW, if you can't subtract 87 cents from a dollar, it's not the crappy public schools fault. And further, why you insist on pointing out that it is your 'coal miner' friends who seem to be challenged in this regard, one can only wonder. Isn't the descriptive word 'friend' good enough? People come to Blackjack Forum and gambling looking for a way toward financial freedom. What they get from the blackjack product and ego pushers is .a loathsome, deceptive, high-pressure sales pitch designed to steal their bankrolls before they hit the reality of card counting in casinos and give up. What they are going to get at Blackjack Forum is help in getting what they actually came to us for. And you guys can either be part of this, or Arnold and ETFan and THopper and Molly and Carlos and other friends around here will take care of it ourselves. Un-believable. Talk about staking out the moral high-ground. That is the most sanctimonious thing I have heard in a long long time. But hey, you guys do run the church. Thanks for leaving me off the honor roll, but no, I'll never be teaching anyone to 'count' as an on ramp to the financial freedom highway. The OPP is the most simple count I've ever seen that actually has value. It is a real help for the people who need it. I am giving it to friends to help them get started, and other very serious and professional players I know are giving it to friends to help them get started. People who need it? Get them started doing WHAT!? The OPP will remain here, for free, for new arrivals, in a prominent position, with our recommendation. In a prominent position .. that's rich .. next to the Blackjack Historian's crap (are you gonna own up to that or not?) And we will keep telling players that, if what they're looking for is money, card counting is not the answer for them and won't be the answer in the U.S. no matter how much of their bankrolls they blow on the product pushers' expensive crap. So why did you teach your friend, who can't even count change and just got laid off, to play BJ at all !?!?! Further, how does this guy have the luxury of making road trips to Atlantic City? Did you read MathProf's latest post on your board regarding some of the dillusions (my word) the OPP future practioneers may be living under? I'm sure you did.
After you finish teaching these, what seem to be hoplessly under educated and under bankrolled friends of yours how to count using OPP, take a cue from Snyder and tell them the truth .. "They won't win."