Opinions please!

Single deck, h17, ds. Holding 4,4 vs 5 or 6. Split or double? Thanks, friends!

You split against 4, 5, and 6.

And, you don't want "opinions"; you want the right answer! We don't get to vote on what proper basic strategy is. :-)

Don

...if you are just playing basic strategy.

If you are counting, you may, depending on the count, double.

WHAT YOU GONNA DO IF YOU GET 4 PRETZELS? (answer below)

Answer: Get some mustard and eat those suckers.

Cobbson

..whiles I was being creative. :)

Cobbson

According to Wizard of Odds, though, he says to HIT vs 4. But your "vote" is to split? I take it with a 2,6 or 3,5 you would double though? Thanks much.

nt

"According to Wizard of Odds, though, he says to HIT vs 4."

No, he doesn't; you misread the chart. "Ph" means "Split if DAS is permitted, otherwise hit."

"But your 'vote' is to split?

I don't vote; I just explain what the proper play is.

"I take it with a 2,6 or 3,5 you would double though? Thanks much."

Turns out to be a fine point of BS. For your rules set (1D, H17, DAS), you double 2,6 and 3,5 v. 5, but only 3,5 v. 6. Hitting 2,6 v. 6 is 0.0084% better than doubling.

Don

We must be looking at different charts. Here's the one I saw on his site, that clearly reads HIT on 8 vs 4, not split: http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/strategy/1deck.html

Thanks again for the explanations, especially the variations. Very helpful.

I just caught my error. I was looking at the wrong line, 8 instead of 4,4. Sorry. And thanks again!

"...if you are just playing basic strategy.

If you are counting, you may, depending on the count, double."

Could you please explain to me why you would "double" 4-4 in a game where DAS is permitted... depending on the count ???

I'm looking at "Don Schlesinger's Ultimate Blackjack Strategy Card" for single deck, and there are TWO answers, aren't there? I believe the poster said it was SD, h17 with no other rules. So wouldn't a better answer be to illustrate the difference in 4s depending on whether it is a DAS or nDAS game?

First answer you make: SD, h17, DAS is SPLIT 4,5,6. This is correct; however, most SD games today don't have these rules (maybe 6:5 being the exception), they are nDAS and the correct play for those games are to DOUBLE 5 and 6 only.

I must commend you for giving him a correct "partial" answer, but I commend you more for correctly putting ALL the strategies on cards. Yours is the ONLY strategies I follow no matter WHAT rules are in play for however many decks.

Any others reading this post, it is well WORTH the money to buy Don's strategy cards. These are MORE than just cards of basic strategy...they have a "total dependent" column for hard hands and "composition-dependent" for all soft hands, making them different from anything on the market.

These are truly the finest basic strategy cards on the market.

Regards,
PM

He did indicate it was DAS.

But my post was a "good" plug for your cards! hehe

I will stand by my point that most SD games are nDAS...the good ones, anyway...unfortunately, most are d10, as well.

Regards,
PM

Yours is the ONLY strategies ;)

Regards,
PM

"He did indicate it was DAS."

Er, I kinda knew that! :-)

"But my post was a 'good' plug for your cards! hehe"

Yes it was. Thank you very much. :-)

Don