Multi-parameter tables for Hi Opt II

I note that these tables are available for purchase via the internet.

Are similar tables also available for AOII users?

If not, can these Hi-Opt II tables for Ace and 8 side counts be used instead. The reason I ask this is because:

1) The counting system is quite similar

2) Aces and 8's are neutral in both counting systems.

3) Aces are used the same way and for the same value for side counting for betting purposes only.

4) The playing strategy indices tables are remarkably similar. Where they vary, it's usually by only 1 digit, and in some cases they are identical.

Has Bryce Carlson conducted a similar study of multiparameter counting, and if so, how can I obtain this information?

Finally, how does one test this data, as the side count value will change depending on the dealer's upcard, and I don't know of any simulation software that can cope with this.

I realise that in many cases, the side count adjustment is inconsequential, but there are a few occasions where it would be invaluable, particular with the Ace because of it's potency. If you're going to side count Aces, you may as well take full advantage of it's potential in cases where it has the most impact.

A case in point:

Running count is 6, 2 decks remaining (so TC is 3), and 3 Aces overdue
TC for betting purposes is now 6, so I maximum bet $150.
I receive 8,3 vs dealer Ace
No dealer blackjack.
I double down (correctly) but I know that those Aces are coming up.
Because I don't have any information to tell me to do otherwise, I play it by the book, but unfortunately, you guessed, I get an Ace, giving me a grand total of 12.
The dealer pulls a 7. (He could have pulled a 6, 8, 9 and I still would have lost.)

So I'm history and so is my $300.

But...

If I knew what the Ace side count adjustment playing was for this dealer upcard, I may have played it differently. I may have hit instead of doubled down. Then hit again, possibly for a winning hand, and even if not, at least I would have lost only my initial bet.

But I don't know when to hit in these situations because I don't have any information to tell me otherwise.

So...

Can anybody out there help me? Please?

Alan

You are fantastic. This is exactly the information I needed. Thanks so much. I have Griffin's book, SBA and the spreadsheet program you mentioned, and now you have shown me how to use these tools.

I can't tell you how much I appreciate you going to the trouble of explaining in such thorough detail.

I've been side counting Aces and started side counting 7's for super sevens. Knowing now that 7's can also play such a crucial role in playing strategy as well has really spurred me on and helped me to know what order of priority my side count strategy variations will take.

I had planned, as you recommended, to learn only the side count strategies that have the most impact, so thanks for confirming this approach, too.

At last, I'm on my way.

Kindest regards,

Alan

That was a fantastic reply 'alienated'
I wish we could see more like that.

Nice work, Alienated. Insightful and clearly written. Probably the most well-written post I've seen here in some time. Although I don't use Hi Opt II, your words definitely provided food for thought. Thanks for taking the time to post such a great message!

Take the main count. Number the side count card value as +1, and the other cards as -1/12. Multiply the side count values by m. Keep cycling through values for m until you get the maximum corelation coefficient for the sum of the side counted values, multiplied by m and added to the main count, with the usual Effects of Removal. Now find the index for the maximum combination. Find out the value of each extra side counted card by dividing the difference of the best correlation index and the index for just the main count.

Suggest this algorithym:

Find the correlation of the summed count for m1=-100, m2=1 and m3=-100.

Find the highest absolute value for that correlation and toss out the value for m that brings the lowest overall summed correlation. For new entry average the two remaining m values. Repeat until m1=m2 etc.

This method will have slightly better results than the modified average modification of the EoRs that Griffin suggested. To try this start with the Moss spreadsheet for algebraic approximation and add these steps. There are several cells that you could choose for this.

Better for combinations of side tracked cards, especially if the side tracked cards are part of the main count.