1 deck, 7/8ths dealt
DOA, no DAS, split only once for a total of 2 hands
play only 1 spot, use high low with all multi deck EV indices -2 to 10, leave game at TC -2
bet:
<= 0 TC $10
1 TC $100
2 TC $200
3 TC $300
4 TC $400
>= 5 TC $500
Would appreciate it if anyone can tell me the % advantage and average bet. Thanks
7/8ths of the 1 deck dealt
i myself usually limit myself to $5 to $200 or $300 on single deck.
do you plan to play this way for much time ? is the pit dead ?
i don't have SBA handy, but seriously, how long a session can you last like this.
personally, i wouldn't even sim it. probably 3% edge with a monster winrate. such a strong game, no need to sim. you do have at least 40K handy, right ?
No doubling after split costs you about 0.14%...Slitting 4 times is worth 0.50%, so lets presume that splitting once is worth 0.26%. [2 hands in stead of 4]...So at +1 you only have a 0.10% advantage...I wouldn't start raising my bets until +2 but from then on, you've got it made.
If this isn't just a trick question, if it is a real opportunity, just make sure that you have enough of a bankroll to protect youself against standard deviations and pray that the game doesn't disappear before you stop wasting your time reading this message.
I realize the premise is a bit fictional; this is a game I play on a little program on my hard drive. I was just curious of the numbers. The game will back you off (not bar) after you hit the $10,000 mark. And I hit it quite often. LOL
Wow, it's getting tougher and tougher to count all the time!
M.
"Splitting 4 times is worth 0.50%, so let's presume that splitting once is worth 0.26%. [2 hands in stead of 4]...So at +1 you only have a 0.10% advantage."
Where on earth did you get such values?? With no das and splitting three times, the house edge at SD is -0.01% (player has slight edge). When splitting is restricted to one split only, it adds 0.04% to the house edge, which now becomes 0.03% for the house.
At +1, you will still have a huge advantage (using indices) of near 1.0% in this game, if not more!
Don
On page 170 of Lance Humble's book entitled---The World's Greatest Blackjack Book,---if doubling is allowed after splitting, it is worth 0.10%, not the 0.14% that I stated in my above submission...It also says that Pair splitting [up to 4 hands] is worth 0.46%.
With no DAS and only two hands allowed from splitting, and since +1 is supposed to be worth 0.50%, for the player, from the above totals, it looks to me like the game would be almost exactly even at +1.
What indices are you talking about?...If it was +4 that we were talking about maybe they would be significant, but we are talking about +1...Also, from everthing that I have read, most of a card counters edge comes from increasing wagers, not from changes to basic strategy...You say that the indices can shoot the advantage up to 1% in this situation, those two above statements seem to contradict each other.
There's nothing I can add to what I've already written. You don't choose to understand, so I'll bow out. But, everything I wrote to you is correct, as it stands.
Don
Your game is not possible in real life for very long -- here are the sim results:
PROFESSIONAL BLACKJACK ANALYZER
Results for file: C:\ELIOT\BLACKJ~1\PBA\HILO5-1.txt
The following rules were specified in the rules menu:
Loses one bet max
Loses with 22-26
No hard doubling
Shufffle used was: Random Swaps
The following counting system was used:
Count indices...
Minimum count for playing decisions: -2
B>---------------------------------------------------
On count... Bet...
<=-0 $10.00
= 0 $10.00
=+0 $10.00
=+1 $100.00
=+2 $200.00
=+3 $300.00
=+4 $400.00
Shuffle when count < -2
The following simulation results were obtained:
Number of hands simulated: 2,690,000
before player decision: 0
after player decision: 0
Average initial bet: $162.82
November 19, 2001
R>---------------------------------------------------
single deck
Insurance offered
Dealer hits soft-17
With dealer blackjack, player...
On ties, player pushes, except...
Split to make two hands
OK to split unlike 10s, like J-Q
Check hole card under 10, A
Double any hard total
Soft doubling allowed
After splitting...
Dealt to 11 cards remaining.
R>--------------------------------------------------
C>--------------------------------------------------
System name: Hi-Lo
2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 T A
1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 -1 -1
Maximum count for playing decisions: 10
C>--------------------------------------------------
The following betting system was used:
Test
>=+5 $500.00
True count is running count per 1. deck(s)
B>---------------------------------------------------
S>---------------------------------------------------
Edge: 4.10
Standard error: 0.11
Sigma: 1.81
Desirability index (DI): 22.70
Number of hands aborted: 0
Average hands per shoe: 5.17
Number of extra players: 0
Simulated hand is at position: 0
Number of cards burned at start of shoe: 0
Number of cards to remove and count...
Profit per hand: $6.68
Standard deviation per hand: $294.25
Profit per 100 hands: $667.96
Standard deviation per 100 hands: $2,942.54
Hello Don:
It is not a case of me not choosing to understand, it is rather a position that is dependent on the advice that I have read...If splitting 4 times, is not worth 0.46% and no doubling after splitting does not reduce the player's advantage by 0.10%, then it would be nice if you told me or us what the correct amounts should be.
You asked me where I got my figures from and I told you...How does that translate into me not being willing to learn more about the game?
Grilled the game this past few days on break...
Played it just the way you specified except dealer stands on soft 17. I don't have exact figures but I believe I put in a good 6 hours of play. BUT, this is video game playing, so hands per hour is way faster and there is 0 shuffle time. I am up about $30,000. I was backed off 3 times (again, $10,000 rule- if it were only so remedial). I had a few bad runs though; the biggest was a $10,000 swing - lot's of stiff 14's 15's 16's vs 10 which took the toll (even roulette players win big now and then). But the losses recouped. I might be spoiling myself. I had one soft 20 vs 5 which I doubled at a true of 10, got the ace and the dealer busted with 2 10's - pretty to see that :)
All in good fun,
Dm
