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Dont give me the story about how little Timmy needs you to keep dealing because he needs the casino benefit package to pay for his chemotherapy. Don't give me the story that you are so well known as a good catcher you cannot get good game. At least 3 handles, some of the best advice given here, are former eye in the sky employees (one is even ex-Griffin). We even have Z-man, who has admitted some times that he does try to do some outside work occasionaly, but he is about the only one where such a large reputation is the reason for not getting it on.

Why do you count and preferentially shuffle when there is more money on the player side of the felt? We all can see from Max Rubin's testimony how little catchers make. With the IRS, we know how much you make as a dealer, or little as it turns out. We can even see the fun in how having the Horseshoe Las Vegas dealers go for their own has tied up so many IRS agents that otherwise would be contributing to the abuses in mutating society, though for other reasons, addressed in this link (which is on the anti-terrorism war that not even a top CIA official can stomach--see the section with the quote, "not worth saving.")

The suposedly safe world!

At least I am not a casino troll with all of those phoney surveys, seeking to build profiles. So come on and spill why you are......you know I want to use a certain phrase that would get me PBed? I am just a little poed about the phoney surveys popping up every two weeks and felt it was time to ask a meaty question. Afterall, as supposedly safe and satisfying as your "job," is now, you don't have the ability to increase your pay as your bankroll grows, and give me a break on the benefits. The HMO plans that the casinos usually include make the VA look like good careproviders. I know how many of you also have thought of doing what the Jolley Trolley (defunct casino that is now the gift shop northwest of the Sahara, at the corner of Sahara and the Strip) dealers started to do when the heat was on the hidden interests that were convicted there, and they lost pay in a followup bankruptcy. Preferential shuffling has a flip side. And I know about the pseudo count advice, that is part of dealer instructions that go a little beyond the rule of 6 etc. I know the difference between a dealer counting along and the dealer being told to note how many player hands are pat and how many took a hit and when the multiple card hands excede the others shuffle (that was started back in 1983 at the Riverside and Pioneer in Laughlin).

The past excuses are not sufficient IMHO. How about some real reasons, or even some new and more original "reasons?"

And afterall, some of the casinos that have dealers learn to preferentialy shuffle are some of the best stores to, look for banging dealers, side spot banger wear, and make location plays. The casinos just have to accept that people don't play except where the ploppies hear that we can win. Or are so many casinos playing with their FR software (see my posts on this on the Vegas Blackjack board here) that they already have chased away the ploppies?

Not you personaly. And sometimes you have to ramble, and bounce around on other topics, to get some minds back in motion. I this case it was to bounce around several of the lame excuses that have been posted by self IDed dealers who lurk here. And I tossed a bone to the Horseshoe for keeping so many IRS agents busy. Any headaches caused by my post are most likely to be the result of minds that have not been in motion lately.

who you think are shuffling up because their counting or not counting.most of them cant spell counting.they are shuffling because you raised your bet and they get nervous with all the money in the circle.these idiots think they are hands at LVC GG,EC and binions start shaking after one round of 5 when i raise my bet for the second round and they shuffle on me.they are idiots.the one good thing about losing alot of sd games is i dont have to worry about these kinds of dealers anymore.i play mainly at the mirage and the bellagio where shuffling up is not possible.where can i get the pot you smoke.maybe i can grow out of dealing like you and make a living selling pot with you and nate newton.

i dont recall any dealers on here saying they count while they deal and then shuffle up when it gets high.what dealers are you talking about.i know shotkaller didnt say that.

There are some very obvious lame trolling surveys from some posters, that are evidently used to build profiles on winning players. There are also many dealers that do shuffle-up according to the count and not some rule of 6 or hand composition instructions. There are many posters who have talked about not being fooled by players that raise their bets trying to force a shuffle. When they are the same handles...

You are wrong pat. You assume I am refering to Shotkiller. That is about as strange as one Casey player (the computer shoes) that in 1983, was convinced that the casinos were using floor level cameras and videoing whether his shoes moved. It should be obvious who some of the dealers who lurk here are. And who some of the pit critters are. And you should even be able to guess who some of the posters are that have broken ties totaly with the dark side and are fully on the players side.

What I want is some real responses on why some are so whipped they deal and count to shuffle-up rather than breaking free?

because they are panzis.i said it already.read my posts from the california thread to Pat Paulson.its near the bottom.i mentioned how i might go to the barona casino on my way to san diego.this idiot tells me he will be looking out for me and do i want a comp.i told him off and called him a loser for reading these threads to look for counters.bottom line on your question-some people are just shitheads and will always look to kiss up to the boss in hopes of advancing.

When I have been the boss in such a position, to have the office look busy when I come in, or been with others on a site, where the floors are suddenly swept during construction, I always suggest that the busy people, or the people doing the mad clean-up, be fired. The people engaged in such kissups...well it is so obvious that they are trying to fool people.

The construction example is a very clear illustration. Anyone polishing the concrete, in a building that still does not have its final floor in place, other than to keep stuff out of the way, is obviously not laying tiles or carpet while they are polishing the concrete.

it seems like bj is a religion to you.i play to make mmoney.thats it.im not trying to change the world , help homeless people,or get pref. dealers to see the bj light and make a living at it.anyway,im going to bed now.my little brain cant handle much more of this deep conversation.its 5 am for crying out loud.later...