Backoffs in Northern Nevada

Hello all. This is the first time I've ever posted.I live in Northern Nevada. I moved up here this last summer from Arizona primarily to play blackjack and poker. I've been a counter for years, but before moving up here, I only played while on vacation, so I was never in any one casino for too long. The games up here in Reno/Sparks, Carson City, Minden, and Topaz Lake are fairly good if you seek out the best games. Between these areas there are at least 10 casinos that offer single deck, 3:2 payoffs on blackjack, dealer hits soft 17, double on any first two cards, no double after splits, one card each to split aces, insurance, and usually about 60% to 65% penetration. Two of these ten casinos also offer late surrender with the above mentioned game. Limits very, but are usually $3-300 or $5-500, although the Nugget in Sparks has a bigger game with these rules $25-$2000 (sorry, no surrender offered at this game). I've been playing 20 to 30 hours a week now for about 6 months between these ten casinos, trying to very my playing time over different shifts and never playing for more than an hour at a time in any one casino. Playing high/low,I usually bet a spread of: base unit of $25 for counts of zero, drop to $10 for all negative counts, $50 for +1, $75 for +2, $100 for +3, and $125 for plus +4 or greater. Ive been doing quite well (when I am allowed to play).

So here is the frustrating part. I've been backed off now at five of those ten place aver the last 3 months. They always invite me to stay and play the other games in their casino, but that I am no longer welcome at the blackjack table. I have thought about changing my appearance (I currently have a beard, long hair, no glasses) and I was thinking about shaving the beard, cutting the long hair (possibly dying it) and getting some fake glasses so I could begin going back into some of the places that have backed me off. Here is my question. If I do change my appearance and attempt to go back into these places and play blackjack after I have been told not too, am I breaking any laws in Nevada? Can any of these casinos arrest me for tresspassing even though they have yet to read me the Nevada Trespass Act? If I was to be cornered by security and taken forcible to a backroom in order for them to read me the trespass act, take my picture, sift through my pockets, and I ask me questions, am I being detained illegally at that point? Or would the casino have the right to do this since I've been backed off in the past (not barred - just backed off)? Any advice woulod be helpful. I want to keep playing, but the casinos are making that increasingly difficult to do and I don't like the thought of being arrested and hauled off to jail. Thanks.

If I do change my appearance and attempt to go back into these places and play blackjack after I have been told not too, am I breaking any laws in Nevada?

No.

Can any of these casinos arrest me for trespassing even though they have yet to read me the Nevada Trespass Act?

Legally, no. But do not underestimate the spitefulness and vindictiveness of casinos towards winning patrons. Fortunately for you, with the notable exception of Cal-Neva in Reno, most northern Nevada casinos are much less hostile than Las Vegas stores.

If I was to be cornered by security and taken forcible to a backroom in order for them to read me the trespass act, take my picture, sift through my pockets, and I ask me questions, am I being detained illegally at that point?

Yes.

Or would the casino have the right to do this since I've been backed off in the past (not barred - just backed off)?

No.

Any advice would be helpful.

Read the following:

Guide to Minimizing Risk of Personal Injury During Casino Backoffs and Barrings

http://www.thebeargrowls.com/?p=73

If Cornered by the Enemy

http://www.bj21.com/advantageplay/lawandtaxes/ifcorneredbytheenemy.shtml

Buy, read, and understand the material in the book linked below.

Great advise from LVBear 584.

Wait a while. Spend less time on SD. Mix in some 2D and 6D. Change appearance some also. Find yourself and act and don't look too calculating. You need to look and act like the rest of the players.

Disclaimer: I'm hardly ever up in northern Nevada.

Your betting could be perceived as a 12x spread, which is, well, pretty insanely aggressive if longevity is your main goal.

I wouldn't worry *too* much about getting caught where you've been backed off previously. It might cause them to trespass you, which might then be problematic the *next* time you go.

Thank you all for the good advice LVBEAR584, Stealth Bomber, and Easy Rhino. My spread on SD may be a little too agressive, but out of my five backoffs, 2 happened when I was betting a 1 to 5 spread ($25 to $125), so I guess I figure if I am going to be backed offed anyway in these clubs, I might as well bet as agressively as I can(so long as the dealer doesn't shuffle up on me) so I can make as much before being thrown out.

The games up here in Reno/Sparks, Carson City, Minden, and Topaz Lake are fairly good if you seek out the best games. Between these areas there are at least 10 casinos that offer single deck, 3:2 payoffs on blackjack, dealer hits soft 17, double on any first two cards, no double after splits, one card each to split aces, insurance, and usually about 60% to 65% penetration. Two of these ten casinos also offer late surrender with the above mentioned game. Limits very, but are usually $3-300 or $5-500, although the Nugget in Sparks has a bigger game with these rules $25-$2000 (sorry, no surrender offered at this game). I've been playing 20 to 30 hours a week now for about 6 months between these ten casinos

Yes, these games are good, but to continually pound and pound them is it no wonder it's getting harder and harder to play?

Why not play the d10 stores? You're missing on so many GOOD games that are EVERYWHERE! Limits are good and pen varies but good pen can be found most anywhere.

Pick up CBJN and look for yourself, there's about 30 playable stores. Multiply that by 3 and you have 90 different stores with really good games you can play.

Contact me via email for more info.

Regards,
PM