What options do a backliner have if a seated player:
1.Surrenders
2.Splits
3.DD's
Thanks in advance//JackNero
1]You can surrender if you want.2]You can only play 1/2 the split hand.3]You don't have to double if your hero does,not viceversa.Willi.
Thats's very intesting. You can play with a split with only one hand without doubling our money/risk. Where can I find the studies of this play //JackNero
Wong's Basic Blackjack and Anderson's Burning the Tables have sections on this. I believe this option can be worth approximetely an additional .2%.
They've disussed it on green chip years ago,but it ususally had to do with a small sacrifice bet up front.I only did this move with another person a few times.Usually it happens with 2 8s against a ten.There's some info in the back of professional blackjack by Wong.I also used this for geting out of hand options concerning dealer mistakes.Any negative play I'd apply.If you're the type to convince people to split 2 9's against a nine and then just take half-that's a strategy.If you're looking to backline I'd greatly reconsider and find a better time/place to play.JMHO.Willi.
Q. Your backcounting a full table and the count skyrockets. No one is getting up so you place your max bet behind a seated ploppy who appears to be playing basic strategy. With aces and faces falling all around, your ploppy gets 5-5 and the dealer gets a 2. He pushes out another red chip and you are about to follow when he announces "split"! Do you:
a) split,
b) play one hand only,
c) offer the ploppy $x to double instead? (How much?)
Wong's table won't help you here because he doesn't consider splits that don't favour the back-bettor. I'd like to see the EV for playing one split hand or two, for all pairs and all upcards (perhaps even for various true counts). Anyone willing to share?
Magician,just curious how did it come out?
The ploppy is 6'6, 300lbs and sneers at you while crushing a chip to dust with his bare hand. Do you:
a) apologise and split;
b) apologise and play only one split hand;
c) apologise, and offer the ploppy $x to double instead? ($x must now be greater than the value of the crushed chip);
d) run.
The answer will, of course, depend on your utility function (e.g. if your utility is life expectation, you might choose to run). I am particularly interested in answers which maximise EV, especially if they generalise to any pair and any upcard.
But don't get mistaken. Never forget that here we're at
Joe's Dinner free buffet (in the nearby of San Diego CA,
I guess :-).
Or more clearly, buy your membership at Green Chip and/or
at DD, and I'm pretty sure someone will bite, me included.
Sincerely
Z
