8,8 v. 10, Sucks

If a pair 8,8 v. 10 loses less $ when split rather than not split, does it still lose less when spit again? How about again? I hate 8,8 v. 10. Is there an index # that would indicate a certain TC to surrender or one to just hit it? Maybe I should just shut up, grin and bare it and play it by the book.

I wonder if when they did the computer sims on this situation, if the computer took into account the possibility of catching additional eights after the first split and, if it continued to split them up to two more times. (total of 3 splits = 4 hands) While I�m on that subject: During pair splits, anybody ever pointed out the fact when there is a little sign at the corner of the table that states: �SPLIT PAIRS UP TO 4 TIMES� but they only let us split up to 3 times? Just first grade math. ????? Amazing!

Stealth Bomber

or split of to 3 times to make a total of 4 possible hands. Some people just overlook things too easily. And 8,8 sucks.

... then it is right the next time and the next time. Assuming you don't have surrender and the count calls for a split either way, it is the right play to resplit. Each resplit is a new hand and a new bet. I believe the figures used in Wong's Professional Blackjack take resplits into account.

The question was:

If a pair 8,8 v. 10 loses less $ when split rather than not split, does it still lose less when spit again? How about again? I hate 8,8 v. 10. Is there an index # that would indicate a certain TC to surrender or one to just hit it?

Yes, the index number for surrendering is rather low, especially the RA number. If you don�t want to learn an index number for it, you would always surrender. Especially with a big bet. This is an example of what is called Counter Basic Strategy,

There is an index number for Standing, but with DAS it is very high. I don�t use it.

There is no index number for hitting.

If a pair 8,8 v. 10 loses less $ when split rather than not split, does it still lose less when spit again? How about again?

Splitting again still loses less than not splitting again but you are in a worse position now with three hands than you were with two. After splitting eights, catching another 8 is one of the worst things that can happen.

I wonder if when they did the computer sims on this situation, if the computer took into account the possibility of catching additional eights after the first split and, if it continued to split them up to two more times.

Yes.

If you hate 8,8v10 that much you might want to play ENHC games where the correct strategy is not to split. Your EV is lower but you won't feel as bad about it. :-) Better still, find a game with surrender and learn the appropriate index. Hope that helps.