$5 games exist in AC?

Anyone know of any $5 games in AC? I stay at the Borgata for a long weekend a month at least, and for the last year or so they've had a single $5 table tucked among their $10 games that went to $10 at 11PM or 12AM (but if you sat down beforehand you were grandfathered -- I often played through from the $5 time all the way through the $10 time until it reverted to $5 again, the poor dealer had to answer a lot of angry players demanding to be "allowed" to bet what I was), but I couldn't seem to find it this trip.

I know a $5 game is most likely a thing of the past here, but just wondered.

On a related note, is the $5 game becoming extinct in NV as well? I'd always heard that it was easy to find a $5 game in the smaller casinos out there, and heard rumors of even some $1 or $2 games at some of the real holes in the wall...

Thanks for all your help
-bb

You can find $5 games all over in N. NV but playing conditions are bad. The Cal Neva in Reno has some $3 games. Table min. change all the time. There are $5 games downtown Vegas and sometimes at Gold Coast. How much can you expect with that min. ? You can't spread enough or you risk getting asked to leave. Comps don't add up enough. Maybe you're just practicing or a rec player. Get Wong's newsletter. It will keep you almost up to date everywhere.

ANY SERIOUS OR EVEN SEMI-SERIOUS PLAYER DOESN'T BET LESS THAN QUARTERS! THINK ABOUT IT!

...that take the game seriously, just as I know many musicians that take their music seriously, but never have made a penny playing.
Some would say that anyone that doesn't bet purple and yellow can't be serious. I guess that makes me care free.

Cobbson

Thanks for the replies, well most of them anyway. =)

Lots of red chippers take the game quite seriously-it's only an amount.

I play low stakes. I play for fun. I try to be as knowledgeable about the game as possible. I admit to not being as knowledgeable in bankroll risk and Kelly criterion as in other mathematical aspects of the game because I consider each $200 or so that I take to Atlantic City for a day of entertainment as a separate bank, as opposed to the high stakes player who plays off a long term five- or six-figure bank. I do not aspire to become a pro. I am not into the comp scene. I am drawn to the game primarily by its mathematics and the legal and political controversies that have surrounded it.

Back to Birdbeast's question: $5 tables occasionally exist in Atlantic City, but they are hard to find, especially on weekends and holidays. Early morning midweek is like the easiest time to find one. It will likely be H17. Often, there are few $10 tables. I refuse to play at a $15 table.

The original regulations adopted by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission in 1978, when the first casino opened, required casinos to maintain set percentages of $2 and $5 tables at all times, with lower percentages on weekends. This regulation was repealed in 1981. The $2 table disappeared and the $5 became very scarce. Also in 1981, the Casino Control Commission repealed early surrender, without adding a compensating favorable rule.

I was a New Jersey resident then. I participated in a Save Surrender! march on the Boardwalk organized by Ken Uston. It was not AIPAC, but it was fun and an important issue for me and for good governance in New Jersey. I had also written many letters to the Commission and to my state Assemblymen and Senator on this issue and on making the casinos smoke-free.

BJay, you know me as one of the Republicans and a supporter of the Bush tax cuts on the Politics board. You may be surprised by my positions on these issues. Don't be surprised. I am more the pragmatist than the ideologue when it is in my interests, provided, however, that I will not sell anyone out. There is no free market in gambling in Atlantic City. By law, a casino hotel must have at least 500 rooms. That's why there are no sawdust joints in AC. The issue of misregulation-not overregulation-of casinos in Atlantic City is one of bad government and bad business. It is not one of big government or big business. Even if it were the latter, I would not reflexively support business. It is not a sell out issue vis-a-vis the interests of the casinos, so I am the pragmatist, rather than the ideologue, on these issues.

Excellent post, Franz Joseph -- thank you very much for the historical perspective and information. I am a relatively new player -- being only 28 years old -- and as many people continue to pontificate, this game is probably not a serious choice for a living for anyone my age or younger considering how it has become less and less favorable for players in even the last decade.

Which is fine for me -- as many of the previous posters commented, I can take this game very seriously without betting "serious" stakes. I bet my serious stakes at my day job, and I'm sure the risks are comparable... But I don't want to get into THAT discussion/argument.

Thanks again for a very informative post.