21+3?

Just wanting some personal opinions on Blackjack plus 3 card poker bonus where your 2 cards and the dealers upcard make a 3 card poker hand? It pays 9 to 1. Does anyone happen to know the odds of getting a 3 card poker hand (flush, straight, or 3 of a kind) with 6 decks? Just wandering because i enjoy throwing the bonus bet out there occasionally for a thrill.

Here are the odds and the house edge:

http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/appendix8.html#21+3

The bet is beatable but it has limited profit potential.

-Sonny-

checked out the odds and it kills the advantage!

Thanks for that info. Wiz. I noticed the odds r more in the players advantage the more decks r use.
They r playing this game now at IN. Lake Michigan casinos with 9 to 1 odds.

below the chart (21+3 6 decks) it says "The house edge under these rules is 3.24%." you say it's beatable. am i readin something wrong?

Not exactly. The House egde goes down it seems as more decks r use it seem.

But, If your observant and watch the suits if one suit is not playing or coming out a lot in the beginning of a shoe it might lead to more flushes and if U bet this sidebet U might win more. As a example take all the clubs , spades, and hearts out and see if U get diamond flushes.

Maybe there's a special count you could use. however, the only thing i can think of is keeping 4 counts, one for each suit. might be worth some studying.

Check this out. What if a person was skilled enough to pick a suit (i.e diamonds) and keep a side count. And lets say they get lucky and with 2 decks remaining they've only seen 25 diamonds . That would mean that out of the 104 remaining cards, 53 of them would be diamonds. they would have around a 50% chance to get a diamond flush. probably not much of a chance to be that good but it could happen, and if the count of a suit wasn't good then don't bet the sidebet.

Below is a link to a few different 21+3 counting systems developed by Scooter. They are buried in the CardCounter.com archive but the link below will show you where to look.

-Sonny-

Im an idiot and glad to say it first there's a50% chance of getting 1 diamond not a flush!!