Will they?

Will the casino pit bosses and floor persons still be friendly toward you and continuously give you comps if they have you pegged as a card counter? Just wondering what other peoples experiences have been. I usually bet low green to low black and am at the casino twice a week usually squeaking out a decent part time income plus comps. I usually keep my sessions at about 2 hours and wong out at least a couple times after big wins or extended minimum bets.

Casinos are in the business to make money. They don't like winners or will not tolerate winners for very long. If you are identified as a winning card counter then eventually you will be asked to leave or they will make the game unplayable for you.

What kind of amount over a year period do you think they would start to become agitated about a player winning? Is it a bad thing to use a card for comps and such? I have been counting for only a couple of years and this past year I have about 10000 in winnings. Nothing has been said so far.

If you've won $10,000 from one place in one year spreading green to black, I'd be shocked if they don't back you off or at minimum deny you any future comps. Winners at blackjack are not to be tolerated, counting or not. "You are welcome to play any of the other games here except for blackjack" can simply mean "You've won enough blackjack money from us; that's it."

Most player's cards are tracked for net wins and losses, and big winners at blackjack are usually flagged for 'evaluation', especially if you've won 400 units. (Some high-roller betting $500/hand winning $10,000 doesn't attract much attention.) Unless their game protection system is totally incompetent.

However, if you've played this long and haven't had a sniff of heat and this is the main place you play, why not just keep it up and see if they every stop you?

I know that I won $4,000 over a 5-day trip in Vegas and on day 6 I sat down for a new session and was 'evaluated' from the first card I was dealt and backed off 30 minutes later. Never saw it coming (the staring, the phone calls) I can only assume it was the dollar win that was the trigger for the evaluation. I would have done better to play at other venues instead of hitting this place again after having such a large positive variance.

I use little or no 'cover' at my $25 1-6 spread; always attempting to leave if I feel any heat as opposed to trying to 'cover' my play. I am of the opinion that by the time you think you need to employ cover plays you've already been pegged, and throwing away a bunch of your advantage with cover is too counter-productive. The main thing I've learned is winning a lot in a short period of time requires leaving that game alone for a while.

Rat-holing green both on winning and losing sessions will do wonders for obscuring your actual proficiency against their game.

Have had similar wins in a year from one store and am still welcomed with open arms - granted their records show a 5 digit losing year for me.

I think it is a good idea to squirrel away some green and you certainly don't want anyone to notice you putting a large amount in shirt or pants pockets but I wouldn't want to look around while doing it and look suspicious either. So how slick must you be without being a slight of hand master?

Not very long ago I was backed off at a place that I would hit about 12 days per year and on a consistant basis beat for over 20 years.
I had ratholed very well, had a good grasp of just what level they got nervous at and because of the time spent there, knew dealers, pits and supervisors.
The thing I did not know on my last visit was that there was a new table game manager and on my last day there I was backed off of blackjack.
The only point to this post is that while you can, you should take advantage of casino tolerance or ignorance because just one new hire can change everything at any time and you never will know when that has happened till it is too late.

Guess there's a fine line between hitting a game as hard as you can under their threshhold of pain and milking a game expecting things to remain the same.

One simple method to rathole chips is when you go to the bathroom you take your black and green presumably because you're paranoid about someone stealing your chips, (which in some joints you SHOULD be.) When you return, not all of the chips return from your pocket to the table.

I have a girlfriend that does all of her slot play on my card when we go to the casino. It seems to me that having some serious slot losses might help to diffuse the bigger table wins.

Anything that shows you play neg ev games can lessen suspicions. But I wouldn't rely on that as your only means of throwing them off. Consistent winning at the tables is not something they care to see, no matter what else you play or how big the losses.

to rat hole some green would probably do the trick for a good while.