WHICH GAME IS BETTER?

hey all,

used to be a green chip member, but quit because there werent any decent games near me. that has changed, and wanted to ask the community which game is better. im pretty sure i know the answer, but just wanted confirmation. here are the 2 games:

game 1: 8 deck

resplit aces once

double any 2 cards

stand on soft 17

wong in always, playing only true counts of 1.5 or better

one deck cut off

game 2: 6 deck

resplit aces once

double any 2 cards

stand on soft 17

wong in always, playing only true counts of 1.5 or better

SURRENDER ANY 2 CARDS

1.5 decks cut off

can anyone run a sim and tell me which game is better and by how much? i would be spreading $75 at true count of +1.5, up to a max bet of 500 at true counts of +4 and over. can anyone tell me the win rate per hour with this spread for both games? thanks so much to whoever can help...

jefftrader

jefftrader,

I guessed your bet schedule: $75 at 1.5, $150 at 2.0, $225 at 2.5, $300 at 3.0, $400 at 3.5, and $500 at +4 and up. I used this same schedule for both games. Other schedules would lead to different results, of course.

For the 6D S17 LS 4.5/6 game, I found an EV of 2.203%, a Win/hr rate of $236.88, and a c-SCORE of 53.69. You'll play 20.1% of the rounds. Note that CVCX suggests a max bet at +8.5 & up, so maxing out at +4 is sub-optimal. A BR of $22K is needed to get your RoR down to 13.5%.

For the 8D S17 7/8 game, I found an EV of 2.135%, a Win/hr rate of $245.34, and a c-SCORE of 49.57. You'll play 20.4% of the rounds. Note that CVCX suggests a max bet at +10.5 & up, so maxing out at +4 is sub-optimal. A BR of $25K is needed to keep your RoR below 13.5%.

As you can see, these two games are quite close in terms of desirability: small changes (game speed, number of players, a few cards' worth of penetration) would suffice to make the c-SCORE of the 8D game higher than that of the 6D game.

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand

thanks doghand for your detailed response, running the sim! good to see your name on the boards after my long hiatus. i am disappointed that the late surrender on the 6 deck game didnt have a higher win rate/hour than the 8 deck game without late surrender. i just speculated that the late surrender would be more valuable.

again, thanks so much for your help...im always appreciative of the seasoned pros like yourself who take the time to help out the sim-less people like me!

jefftrader