Which Counts Are Used....
I've been studying some othe different count systems and was wondering which ones are actually used now a days?
Which ones do you guys use?
I've been studying some othe different count systems and was wondering which ones are actually used now a days?
Which ones do you guys use?
I use the Kiss III count as described in Blackjack Bluebook II-it definitely gets the $
If the system exists, there is a pretty good chance someone somewhere is using it (or trying to use it). For blackjack, I expect most counters are using either Hi-Lo or KO. Both systems will get the money and are relatively simple to implement.
Although almost any Card Counting system can be said to "get the money"
Kiss 3 is not very good. (understatement)
I use the ZEN Count for shoe games and Hi-Opt II for DD games.
I play professionally all over the U S A.
Flash-
No offense intended-I'm sure you're a most skilled professional blackjack player-but Kiss III does get the money-end of story.
Best of luck to you.
*ALL* the counting systems "get the money", and Flash is absolutely right. The question is whether one is easier or more effective than another, and there's plenty of room for debate there.
As for the original question, Hi-Lo is almost certainly the most popular method.
http://www.qfit.com/card-counting.htm
Flash is wrong when he declares "Nonsense",and as I understand it he's a professional poker player not a professional blackjack player. Actually the bottom line here is that counting cards isn't atom splitting and so many people try to make it seem that it is-which I'm sure delights the casinos.
Good luck!
about 4 years playing on a very regular basis.
Used KO, KISS III, Red 7, Hi-Lo. Do they work? Yes, they all work.
Thank you bjtocki. So, to state "Kiss 3 is not very good (understatement)" is bullrohr isn't it?!
Good cards!
Yes, "they all work"
When you "work" do you enjoy working for $25 an hour or would you prefer $30 an hour ?
The switch from a weak level one count to a good level two count accomplishes that - at minimum.
Zen
R P C
Hi Opt II
A O II
The dfference in expected EV from any of the accepted counts is fractions of a penny per hand-if not fractions of a penny per dozens of hands. Add to that the likelihood of additional mistakes due to fatigue from dividing the running count by the number of decks left in play and it's easy to see why one should use an unbalanced count and just get the $$$.
