TMan, is there a full moon out?

Was noodling around the net this AM and I see that you are still living in the past. To bad; I thought you had moved on.

So you are looking for someone to spice things up, someone you can 'knock around' as you say, and the most notorious candidate you can turn up is .. Bettie Paige?!

Hmmm. Despite my best efforts, and The Big Red Book, all seems well over there. Crap. What to do, what to do? I know; let's get the guys at the club to bag on Bettie.

Nice goin' dude. I've seen desperate before, but man up, and get a grip.

Trackjack is very lame. I have found CBJN to be much more reliable (of course nothing ever beats seeing for yourself).

All schemes to track conditions have flaws. I used BJF in CV. Both TrackJack and CBJN are superior. Years ago I planned to start a free service because I wanted better data for CV. I dropped the idea when I heard BJF was creating TrackJack. TrackJack got off to a bad start because the original manager did not fulfill his contractual obligation to set up a reporter network. After he left, a new, easier method of keeping the data up to date was created. It looks like the new manager will make additional improvements.

When I am asked for a conditions source I tell people about both. I prefer TJ because it allows CV users to easily import conditions. I offered the same capability to CBJN and received no response.

After he left, a new, easier method of keeping the data up to date was created.

Yeah. It's called hitting the refresh key on the dates of hundreds of reports at one time to make them all look like new reports.

There is no easy way to continually gather the rules and other conditions of all of the blackjack games on the planet or just on this continent.

You either do the work yourself, pay a person or lots of people to do it, steal the information from another service, or lie to your customers.

RGE ain't either doing the work or paying to have it done, and that, customers or potential customers, is all that matters.

Call me obsessive, but I know that rge is cheating the community and trackjack is fraudulent. And now, with impunity, they are starting to increase the promotion of their scam.

And, it does piss me off.

Are you done? You responded, deleted, responded, deleted and responded. T-Man, the lies that you have posted over the years have become tiresome. At least this time you didn't invent an alias, pretend you were a newbie and an unhappy customer. At least this time you didn't claim that I out my customers. That slanderous post of yours is still up at the Fight Club where I am not allowed to respond. You will do or say anything in your attempts to destroy people. You are right about one thing. The original manager failed. You were that manager. The methodology was changed after you left to examine conditions one by one offline and update in batches in addition to any single updates. It's easier and safer. The fact that this couldn't be done when you were there does not make it fraud any more than CBJN's monthly updates are fraud.

T-Man stop this obsession for your own stake. You failed in your attempt to start a competing service years ago. You have destroyed your reputation and are destroying your life. And you are boring everyone. Your friends are sick of hearing about and seeing the red book. Don't you see how obsessive this is? Think Captain Queeg and his strawberries. You are the only victim of this obsession. Life is too short to spend on the hatred of an ex-employer.

First, TMan, this post is not about you, it's not about getting the last laugh, but please stay hooked up with this post because I have a question for you later.

> That slanderous post of yours is still up at the Fight Club where I am not allowed to respond.

Norm -you say you are not allowed to post there. I'm a little confused but I think it is clearling up.

There is a post responding to TMan by someone using the handle "ntr_Norm_Wattenberger." That is not you is it? It finally dawned on me that it isn't.

Does the "ntr" in the poster's name mean "not the real?"

Please tell me it ain't so.

However as I think about it, it must be so as there are actually two "ntr" posters listed; it appears the moron doing the bad impersonation could not spell your name properly and the board op is apparently to lazy or gutless to take down them down.

TMan, if you are still reading, is that you hiding behind yet another bogus handle? I don't want to impune you in error (I know that even one of the high imperial motor scooters there use bogus' handles) but was that you responding to your own post?

Either way I owe you a correction. I said raggin' on Bettie was the most desperate thing I had seen in a long time. It just went to #2.

Any self-respecting board op would never allow someone license to use a handle like the one apparently put up using Norm Wattenberger's name, no matter if it be spelled correctly or not. Hell they almost broke their collect legs falling all over each other while sucking up to Bill Zender on a similiar issue.

Freedom of speech is one thing, hosting a Fight Club is another .. selective shit like this just seems to be their continuing stock in trade.

I cannot respond to the slander there. I am told it is Karen posting under yet another fake handle. You cannot complain to the management about fraud since they, themselves are behind it.

I have been exceedingly busy today. I was in a business meeting with the Mayor and City Manager of the city to which I have recently moved. This is the first time I've looked in today.

I am only posting under my handle.

And these attacks are actionable. How low can anyone get? Stalker repeatedly claims I can post but I cannot. And I never sent an e-mail to Grosjean. Now you have gone so low as to suggest that people attack someone's wife because you have failed to destroy his business. You even admit that you have tried to harm his business. Even posting fraudulent 'unhappy customer' complaints.

It has been two years since you lost your job. Two years since your attempt to set up a competing business failed. You have lost another since. Get over it and get on with your life.

Or can anyone join in?

And I never sent an e-mail to Grosjean.

I heard about that, funny stuff Norm. Please stop self-medicating.

Giggles,
Syph