This is 100% card counting at the highest possible level with a 20:1 spread

This is 100% card counting at the highest possible level with a 20:1 spread undetected

Would you like to know how to play red chips on $100 minimum table and accomplish a spread of 20:1 in Single Deck game? Gaining an advantage of over 2.00% over the long run undetected by the pit cop?

This has been simulated using SBA for over 1 Bill rounds.

Here we go:
Play at the $100 minimum. The black chip is just for cover. As far as we are concern they do not exist.You put your bet on top of the $100 chip.

So, what we get?
Count zero or negative you bet $100.
Count goes into the positive you bet $100+TC in red chips.

Ex: 

TC <=0 Bet $100  .. ��, spread 1:1     

TC  =  4 Bet = $120  ..�.,spread 1.2:1

TC  =  8 Bet = $140 ��.., spread 1.4:1

TC  = 12 Bet = $160 ��.., spread 1.6:1

TC  = 20 Bet = $200 �.�., spread 2.0:1

This play in a good DD game will give you about  0.20% EV

Ex

TC <= 0 Bet 5 ����, spread 1:1

TC =  4 Bet = $20   �., spread 4:1

TC =  8 Bet = $40 ��.., spread 8:1

TC = 12 Bet = $60 ��.., spread 12:1

TC = 20 Bet = $100 ��., spread 20:1

This play in a good DD game will give you about 2.00% EV

You could get a little edge with this. You will not have a 2% edge unless the rules are very good and you are using a very strong system. A simple 1:3 spread in black, without red chips, will give a stronger edge.

And why I refuse to sell my products to progression players. Listen to DD.

Since you are waiting for a True Count of +20 to place your $100 max bet in double deck, you could use this system for a long time at a $50 maximum bet table and forget about the black chip cover.

$20 at TC = 4
$40 at TC = 8

This awesome spread should get you a lot of comps from the pit as an additional bonus.

Using BLACK chips as cover for your red chip action???
You've got to be kidding!

Do you ever post anything that makes any sense?

This is 2:1 spread if you look to the black chip.The pit cop will see the same thing a 2:1 ..., but is not!
Is a 20:0 at the red chip level. The black chip is only the vehicle.

I am betting 0 red chips on top of 100 on negatives and zero and I only bet on positive counts 100+TC in red.

How can you bet 20:0 spread with red chips in a normal game? They would't let you. But here you have a 20:0 and you suspected that was a 2:1! ..., See?

SS

This is 100% card counting at the highest possible level with a 100:1 spread undetected.
Play red chips on $500 minimum table (even if you can't afford it - you can, because it is sure winner)and accomplish a spread of 100:1 Huge advantage over the long run undetected by the pit cop?
Here we go:
Play at the $500 minimum. The pink is just for cover. As far as we are concern they do not exist. You put your bet on top of the $500 chip.
So, what we get?
Count goes into the positive, you bet $500 + 1/10 of TC increase in red chips. So at TC +10 you bet $500 + $500.
You seeee !!
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Please, NO !!!

Yours, S.

Don't listen to these boors, Sniffer. You GENIUS man!

and he's been going nuts ever since.

I warned you, SS, if you came over here to the math page they would chew you up and spit you out, they would twist you into a pretzel.

You wouldn't listen! You hit the F9 recalc key, and your answer was "Go ahead, what do they know?"

I told ya....

is too heavy for the truck. You have a 20 unit cover bet. The variance of the $100 under your red chips obscures everything. These little red chips have to overcome the negative ev of the blackchip. It is good that you are looking for ways to fool the pit. But this is just lots of work for nothing. Do you really think this will attract less attention than spreading 1:2 black? All this is going to do is slow down your play as the dealer tries to pay off $115 & $165 naturals and you have to fumble through red chips to make bets. The dealer will have to unstack your chips for each payoff. And the player who really has the bankroll to bet blackchips is not going to want to mess with all this red for the minimal return you are going to generate.

and let us players decide how to use it. By prejudging, you're putting us in a straightjacket.

Looking at the hidden black chip covered with red chips, does show some innovative thinking. He actually has two separate bets going at the same time, one flat bet and one progression bet. So he fooled himself into thinking that his progression bet would overcome his flat bet losses of (-.05%). He deserves congratulatins for trying.

Question: Why didn't the simulator show it a loser?

Like any system, if it starts off lucky, you have something to crow about.
Sometimes a system will start badly and is abandoned when in fact a simulator would show it was a winner.

Norm! Produce your simulator for progression players and we'll make you famous. (OK MORE famous).

he only made claims. He didn't state what the rules were either. It is unlikely he knows the difference between 2% and .00000002%. I can promise you that he won't post the actual sim report.

expected value goes both ways. oh, and there is something called variance too which, by the way, "counts".

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I have a revolutionary idea which I call "vehicle variance."

When you bet no red chips, bet the whole black chip. But for each red chip you spread, you no longer need such a large vehicle to reach the table minimum. So when you spread to one red chip, you only need a $95 vehicle. Continue in this manner until you're betting twenty reds and no vehicle at all.

Better yet, do the same thing with one-dollar chips instead of nickels. You can spread 0-100 with absolutely no heat!

The math worshipping fools will tell me this will never work. With their simulators and their precious little facts. I suppose I must have been imagining things when I tested this system in a casino for half an hour and came out ahead. Their facts are worthless in the face of my anecdotal evidence.