sun trip

i visited the sun yesterday.. the place was packed.. only 25 dollar tables available... played for 3 hours and made 204 dollars . i was up 425...started a new shoe.....which got good quick...but could not win a hand....four straight losses a t 50 a hand, after three staight at twenty five and i left with my 200 profit.....the thing that bothered me was that i left in a true count of two with two decks left.i know that we live for good counts but after getting shellshocked 7 rounds in a row.. i figured take the deuce and run...i happened to be at a table where both dealers were giviing excellent penatration......did i make the right move?

you had a temporary loss of confidence, normal, just move on.

This is, according to my opinion, a split situation. After losing steadily, most people are mentally affected by the outcome. This phenomina often affects the outcome, unless you're a highly trained professional or has total control of your feelings. The psychologist; Marwin Karlins describes it carefully in "Psyching out Vegas" and "The book the casino managers fear the most". Psychology has a great influence on the play. In many cases, the mental break down when losing gradually, make people do desperate and incorrect moves, and also steam.

On the other hand, you left a, mathematically excellent, situation. The TC was positive, and the penetration was superb.

My conclusion is, that yuo made the right thing, if you are influenced by a serie of losses. If this has no affection on you, you made the wrong move.

Best regards, Robert V. Lux

the same kind of thing happened to me last night,count went high s quickly and i had my max bet out fairly soon and kept losing like crazy,the dealer was almost pleading with me to decrease my bet i just kept saying "my luck has to turn" but of course it didnt,I couldnt wait for the shoe to end as i was throwing cash across to be changed after almost every hand,then lost the last splitting 4,4 v 4,split to 3 hands with 2 doubles.The dealer must have thought i was mad or a desperate gambler trying to stubbornly win back his money.
My heart saying "get out of here you are being creamed" my mind was saying "dont leave you have the advantage,it is a high count"
I think i did the right thing because 1,it is a good test and probably there will be many more of these shoes it the future so i will have to get used to them and 2,it makes me look like a gambler who chases his losses,so is good for an act

Don't you worry about a TC+2. That's not a big deal.

You should have left that table even sooner. When you�ve been up $425, my standard would have told me to quit that dealer at 33% lost of my profit. I don't care if the TC is one million. I would have left that table with about $300 after losing 3 bets of ($50, $50, $25) that�s the sequence. I would have cut my third bet down to $25 regardless of the count and left the table with 3 black chips.

You have to monitor in a close range at all times your progress as follow:
1.How many hands have I won in the last couple of decks? � If I won less then 50% I�ve got to change table!
2. Have I got in any winning streaks? � If not, I�ve got to change table!
3.Did I got big cards on my doubling downs? � If not, I�ve got to change table!
4.Did the dealer got busted more on positive counts? � If not, I�ve got to change table!
5.Who�s busting first? � I or the dealer? � If is me, I�ve got to change table!
6.Did the dealer is showing up big up-cards more that would be normal? � If yes, I�ve got to change table!
7.Did I got the normal ratio of BJs and double downs opportunities? � If not, I�ve got to change table!
8.How often the dealer is making 19s 20s and 21s? � If more then normal, I�ve got to change table!

Counter, Supper Counter or even the best BJ player in the world, you do not win without getting the cards at the key moments. Who cares if the count gets up to +20 and you can bet your MAX without any heat? If you do not get the cards but the dealer is the one who�s getting more then would be normal while beating you most of the time, you have to consider this a deviation from the norm and change table.

Pay attention at # 6 question: �Did the dealer is showing up big up-cards more that would be normal?� This alone can be disastrous for the player! It would produce the most useless busts ever. It is very hard to play against the T all the time. It will make you hit most of your hands and put some big restrictions on double downs. The #6 alone has got to be your cardinal guide if you continue playing at that table or if you depart and look for another one.

BMW 850

I was playing a pitch game recently, where I had lost three consecutive hands, as the count skyrocketed. As I reached for more $$ to steam a max bet on two hands, the dealer, who was very upset at my losing, shuffled because it was a "bad deck". She was sincerely trying to help me, and had mixed the cards before I could stop her. With the count being more than double my max bet pivot, I was looking forward to playing the two hands, no matter what had just happened.

AAAAH!

How long have you been playing BJ on a regular basis and what criteria did you base your answer on other than feelings? Do you understand standard deviation? Thank you for an honest answer. Bonne Chance.

Playing BJ for over 30 years. I have been trained by L. Revere when I was even under the age of 21 and playing with the �master� in Vegas when most of the wise guys on this board never heard of blackjack. I know all the nuts and bolts of the game including all the math which I agree with over the next 100 million hands.

However, also I am aware of the fact that you will encounter during your table session the point of no return from where you will never recover if continue playing at that table. You most likely will recover if changing table. You have got to recognize the point of no return and move on.

Now, the way I play probably you'll not like it but it goes like this: I only increase my bet on positive counts if I�ve won the previous hand and IF my lead cards are correlated with the positive counts. Another words, when the count is positive I�ve got to get a higher proportion of big cards. Also, during positive strong counts the dealer has got to bust proportionally more vs. negative counts. Further more, I�ve got to make the double downs during the positive counts else, if I underscore while having my MAX out I will lose my ass like the guy using PB as his screen name.

BMW 850

keep firing.

I'm losing my ass bet more because the count is high. When you lose
it all, the BR wasn't big enough. INSANE.

that you are completely and utterly broke, or the pit critters are holding guns on you and threatening to shoot to kill!

Because she really scr**ed you.
Sorry.
I could'nt pass that one up. The same thing happened to me not long ago, and I'm fairly new at counting. Took every ounce of will I had not to break down screaming and crying. LOL

The math boys will cry hippocrite, because they have no idea of what
a booby trap the flaw is. Get ahead and walk every time-little wins
mount up.

It is smarter than you are.

If you don't systematically lock up wins, you will never have any -- the best you can ever do is to be temporarily ahead.

I beg to differ,

I would truly love to sit down at every table with two decks left and a TC of +2. Would you or any other PeeUUU deciples care to play the house and let me put my max bet on every hand in this situation to prove your points? I would be more than happy to oblige.

Don't be "ploppies"

Learn the Game correctly

and stick with it!

>I would truly love to sit down at every table with two decks left and a TC of +2.<

So would I, *IF* that were possible.

But, of course, it isn't possible.

In your purely theoretical, hypothetical and impossible scenario, you would win *most* of the time.

But long and bitter experience should tell you that this particular scenario (as was originally and specifically laid out) would likely be one of those *other* times -- one of the times when you would (continue to) *lose*.

and impossible scenario?
He said that he left the game with two decks left to play and a true count of +2.YOU said that playing into two decks at +2 you would win most of the time. What mysterious powers do you or anyone else have that tells you that THESE TWO DECKS are the ones to avoid? And if you will win the majority of these situations, why on God's green earth would you walk away from one, when it presents itself to you.
I am not even close to being a seasoned veteran at card counting, but in a situation such as this, short of barring, death in the family, an act of congress or going completely broke, I will stay untill the end of the deck or my last penny is gone and walk away knowing that I absolutely did the right thing because my "limited psychic abilities" did not pick up on the fact that these were the two decks to avoid.

I doubt seriously the RVer or ESP practicioner postulated would have a rating of his (or her) accuracy to weigh against the usual evaluation, such that such skill could be properly applied.