Suggestion: Move to a more modern Forum system

This is just my suggestion. How about changing the current forum system to a more modern ones like SMF or vBulletin? Maybe it is just me, but I find it really hard to find information here (the old ones) because the search feature is not very powerful and the threaded list is not very intuitive.

Even Green Chip Message board login requires .htaccess login, which I think it is very outdated and unnecessary, because you have to memorize 2 different logins for the forum.

Thank you.

...which uses vBulletin and to tell you the truth, I prefer BJ21 format. Maybe because I have an affinity for anything that's been around the block a few times.

Cobbson

I like BJayCobbson and I respect his posts, his sharp sense of humor not withstanding;

but I too belong to another bulletin board which uses vBulletin� v.3.8.1

In my opinion it is far superior in every way that I can conceive of.

I do agree searching on here is worthless, I always try to search the message boards first before I post....now I I just post, because I can never find what I want.

I know some of you are subscribed to the Green Chip board, and yes it's reasonable, but I don't see the value in it. The biggest problem I have with any message board is people don't always answer what's being asked, maybe it's because the question isn't clear or they pick out something else all together and comment on that. Other times there's no response at all, which make me think the free board is just as effective as the pay board, you get the same results regardless of which one you use.

If a new message board is created I think some consideration should be made to just merge the two and make the entire board free. There isn't that much traffic to warrant a pay board in my opinion. I'm willing to be the amount of people that go to blackjack specific sites is probably pretty small compared to the majority of web users.

The current format that bj21 uses is much more legible than vBulletin, in my opinion. Font style, size and colors are perfect for easy reading, as opposed to vVBulletin's.

Not to mention, most APs don't really have a need for a "posting avatar" (schoolkid stuff, imo) or private messaging. I use an avatar in my bj21 profile, but that's it. And if I need to contact another poster, I use private email.

We had a big discussion on the format of bj21 a few years ago, and the overall concurrence was to keep it just the way it is right now.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

JMO.

Regards,
drumz1

Eric,

The Green Chip pages are far more active than the free page, with numerous detailed, well-thought-out posts every month competing for the coveted "Post of the Month" honors. In addition, the GC archives are filled to overflowing with incredibly insightful posts, including almost every POM. Believe me when I say that the information I have received on GC far exceeds the modest cost of membership. Perhaps you should sign up and see what you've been missing!

Dog Hand

I think threaded system like this is good for reading recent posts, but it's hard to dig the old topics in the archive. I mean there are a lot of invaluable information here, but it's really hard to find them.

Regarding to design and font, I don't see what you can't do that on modern systems using the same font, size, etc., by adapting the template files.

The reason I am suggesting this is because I have been a website developer for 10 years and a lot of my customer's site had boosts on their traffic because of changes like this. I know the veterans (I believe most of them are more than 40 yrs old) here will not agree because they don't have to dig up the old archives for being the experts and the changes will not benefit them at all, but it hard to attract new generation users.

The level of Casino defenses against being a successful card counter are so vast as to make the practise not worth the effort. Continuous Shuffling Machines, eight deck games with more than two decks cut out of play, single deck games shuffled after each game, 6/5 Blackjack payoffs, who needs the aggrevation of trying to find a decent game. And even if you do, you face being barred before you can make any money worth mentioning.

Added to this is the gamblers lifesytle which becomes far more boring than one might otherwise imagine when first contemplating such an endeavor. There are of course two ways to view this submission. Either you think it is a study in negativity or you think it is a study in reality.

Maybe I am wrong, but making a thread here to vote for "Current" or "New" forum system would be useless, because I believe majority are veterans and they can not be beaten! ;)

A typical example is to see how Facebook.com has evolved... at first it was for Harvard students only, then open to all Universities, now it's for everyone. And each and every time, everybody was against the changes.

There are plenty of very good games out there, and plenty of us can and do make a fairly comfortable amount of $ beating them. No, you aren't going to get (very) rich playing BJ, but you can do quite well.

But hey, if you don't think it's worth it, that's your business. But don't pretend it's a study in reality, it's just coming here to crap all over what a lot of people enjoy doing for fun and profit.

I did try the green chip board, which is why I don't see the value in it.

Which is unusual for me :.)

I find this BB system to be cumbersome and inefficient. I subscirbe to several boards and find vBulletin the best.

It's totally nonsense. In US, some casinos uses ASM but not CSM (nobody would play this game). You can find plenty of 8 deck cut with 1 1/2 deck and 1 deck cut with 6 deck game.

I know a lot of APs including myself that have never been barred. One of them was even able to make $200,000 within a month with only $10,000 bankroll (skill + winning streak), while most of them make in average $3000 to $7,000 in a month with $10,000 - $50,000 bankroll.

Although I do admit that BJ is a tough game and if you don't have discipline, persistence or intelligence, then you are just going to be another sucker gambler (that comprises more than 95% of BJ players) welcomed by the casinos.

I don't see the value either. There is no any kind of secret information that you can't find by Googling it. Haven't tried the live chatting feature, that might be a different story. But my interest was about the East coast casinos, but the forum about this is totally dead! Latest post was like a month ago. I can find updated info on other forum sites.

But my interest was about the East coast casinos, but the forum about this is totally dead! Latest post was like a month ago. I can find updated info on other forum sites.

I checked to see how many posts have been made in the last thirty days on several Green Chip pages. The totals are below. Though the East page has the fewest posts of the pages I checked, I think it's a stretch to call it "dead." Remember that the conditions in the East rarely change and are generally poor. There simply isn't much to report or discuss there. Note that the other blackjack wasteland, the Midwest, had the second-fewest posts. In the Midwest, too, there's just not much to say about conditions that rarely change and are generally poor.

General 959
Vegas 304
Vegas Life 113
USA-West 115
USA-Midwest 36
USA-South 89
USA-East 27
Cover/Comps 103
Law & Taxes 58
Stocks/Investing 324

Even if you take away a specific part of the country I still don't see the value, especially if you can google and find the info for free. I know in my case I'm better off talking with someone face to face, sometimes that's just easier.

I know in my case I'm better off talking with someone face to face, sometimes that's just easier.

No offense intended, but reading your post, I'm wondering why you even bother to post on this board. After all, you could do much better talking with someone face to face, yes?

Green Chip membership costs $14.75 per month. For that, you get a wealth of information from many of the members, a look at all the archives, POMs, plus a discount on Pi Yee products.

I personally feel like the GC membership fees are worth every cent.

But, I digress. YMMV. I'm just surprised that you would even post on the free page, given your above reasoning.

Regards,
drumz1

In my post above, I wrote:

Green Chip membership costs $14.75 per month.

It should have read per quarter.

http://bj21.com/ads/green1.html

Wow, now that's a hellova lot of money, right? Not even table min. for one measly bet at most of the stores I play. But I know, talking to someone face to face would save you a few bucks, I suppose.

;-)

At any rate, I just wanted to set the record straight.

Regards,
drumz1