Stupid Spanish 21

I am the most stupid card counter, I think. I played Spanish 21 during the weekend and lost $2000,the reason why I tried to play is that I saw they pay on lots of situations. Next day, when I saw the fresh cards, I found out that Spanish bj is bj without 10. That's why the number rises quickly to high positive numbers. For 8 deck game, the count starts from negative 32, basicly, there is no chance to win. So I'd like to spread my stupid exprience to all fellow bj palyers: if you have never heard or played Spanish bj, never touch it! Also, I have a day dream: I hope sombody invent African or Indian 21 in which, instead of taking 10s, they take all 5s.

How long did you play before you realized?

I did see a fight break out in a poker game in basic training in the army once. Turned out, some idiot had bought a pinochle deck at the PX.

Count carefully. because you didnt reliaze SP21 has no Pipe 10 in the game for whole day. so you have to pay more attition beside counting in the future.

I didn't realize the first day.(I played 3 hours) After I got home,I thought about it: there must be some hole in it,otherwise, the players have too much advantages:pay 21 rightaway,resplitA,surrender after double down,etc. So, next day, when I reach the casino. The first I did was to find a SP21 table with fresh cards-the cards just taken out without shuffle. I found there is no 10, I couldn't believe it at first sight, I asked the dealer and confirm it.
My question to you is:what is "pinechle and PX"?

I pondered about Mr. Lee's question for some time and went through my 3 hour pain experience. I reach the conclusion that SP21 is beatable in rare situation:when the count reaches +50.(8 deck) at that time, the real count is +18(-32+50). At this moment, the players can enjoy the advantage the SP21:pay to 21 right away,resplitA,surrender after double,etc. That is only my guess, we really need some expert like SW or Ian Anderson to calculate.

My question to you is:what is "pinechle and PX"?

li tan,

"Pinochle" is a card game played with a special 48-card deck that contains only 9's, 10's, J's, Q's, K's, and A's. The deck has two of each in each of the four suits. Thus, if used for poker, this deck would give every player a very good hand: lots of high pairs and flushes!

"PX" is a military acronym for Post eXchange, which is a store on a military post where soldiers and their dependents can shop.

Dog Hand

Dog Hand wrote:

Thus, if used for poker, this deck would give every player a very good hand: lots of high pairs and flushes!

I think flushes would occur with about the same frequency as with a regular deck.

Perhaps you meant to say �lots of high pairs and straights�. You would also have a high number of Two pairs, 3 of a Kind, etc.