Some positional playing theory.

Picture this:

A full table.

Each player plays BS, so has a 1/2 % disadvantage.

The dealer has a 1/2 % advantage over each players position.Of course!

Half way through a session, the third base player goes broke and leaves. A victim of temporary flux. Of course, you know, that approx.
98% of all hands offset themselves and had he lasted longer, he would have probably gotten most of his negative flux back.

Now, we must all reset our counters back to zero, because we're playing against a new dealer position and he'll probably pick-up
the flux the loser left behind,now that he's playing his position, besides the 1/2% he always brings with him nomatter what position he's in.

Wait a minute, I got it wrong, third base didn't lose but won and walked off with positive flux. We can now relax for a little while until the dealer makes up for the positive flux the third base walked off with. It won't take him long with his 1/2% advantage and of course we still have our negative 1/2% attached to us.

This is an attempt to possibly explain the effects of players jumping in and out.

that's all fine, but it is all wrong.

Players jumping in and out have no effect whatsoever on any other player's EV, nor the dealer's "EV" (house advantage against BS players).

There is no way of knowing what would have happened had 3rd base played one more round. His losing streak (or his winning streak) could have come to an abrupt end.

Don't worry about players jumping in and out. All it does is slow the game down as they buy in or color up and out... It has no effect on your winning or losing whatsoever, so long as you keep up with the card count properly. :)

...altogether as I have had the best success playing heads-up with the dealer.

-Musician-

heads-up is my preferred choice, but at times it is not possible, if I am just "in town" for a brief bit of business and stop by to play some BJ to kill time...

If I take a BJ-only trip, I play late night early morning type times, for that very reason. But I don't avoid a crowded table because someone is going to jump in or out and screw up the flow of the cards. I avoid them as when the count is high I want as many of the good cards for myself as possible. :) I _HATE_ to get a + count and the other player at the table pull the snappers while I pull the 16's with big bets out. :)

"Of course, you know, that approx. 98% of all hands offset themselves and had he lasted longer, he would have probably gotten most of his negative flux back."

If that were true, then it would make more sense to just follow losing bettors around and back-bet on hands they play later.

You're way off the mark here.

If you're off base theories are even remotely close to being true, then casinos would have been bankrupt a long time ago. I hear players say things like this all the time and they don't win. I hear some real bad advice given by seemingly good players. If you would just take some time and clear your head of all these superstitiions and falsehoods, you can leave the matrix and join the few of us in Zion. (If you get the comparison)

Well done! Impressive results! Where to now?

Too bad counters didn't pick a higher mountain to climb.

It's the counters who are stuck in a mold that's been hoisted to a pinnacle, with nowhere else to go.

Good luck with your one or two units per hour with high risk, while I enjoy my 4 units per hour with very little risk.

In the real world, we players have to deal with what's practical, applicable and result oriented.

We thank the academics for their contributions, but we'll take from here.

You give unrealistic examples and reasoning and seem to want others to jump on your bandwagon. I'll tell you what I do about blackjack. I don't play it. I play poker. If you want to make money then learn poker. It doesn't even have to be Texas Hold-em, theres 5 card draw, 7 card stud, Omaha, Razz. You can even have all the superstitions you want and still come out ahead in any of those games. I think poker is the right game for you. I think you are wasting your time, money, and frustration trying to figure out blackjack. Its too risky, with too small of results. Get your money down on a poker game and relish in your new found hobby. You may even become the next celebrity and get book deals and commercials and stuff.

what I know because if you knew what I know, then you would know I knew.

You don't know, that you don't know, because if you knew that you didn't know, then you would know that you don't know and would know, although, even I don't know things that I don't know that I don't know, but I do know that I don't know.

NW, I almost dropped a drink in my lap when I read this post.

LMAO LMAO LMAO :-) :-) :-)

Regards,
drumz1