Dear Group,
I am interested in creating an archive of stories on my website, www.cardcounter.com, about backoffs, barrings, and casino harrassment. If you have a story you would like to tell, please write it up and send it to me at
All stories will be published anonymously (unless you request otherwise).
Thank you in advance,
--Mayor
(excuse the cross post, many either read the free or the pay pages, but not both).
Here's how it all went down:
Casino Person: Hey, Pretty dramatic, eh?
Me: Ok.
Casino Person: You are welcome to play any other game in the casino but no more blackjack, ok?
Me: Ok.
Casino Person: Thanks.
Me: No problem.
Casino Person: (pushing chips out of betting circle) I'm sorry, Sir. You are welcome to play craps or roulette, but we don't want you playing blackjack here anymore.
Me: Okay, No problem.
Casino Person: Thank you, sir.
Me: Okay, guess I'll go cash in these chips. Thanks. (beelines out the door)
Wait just a minute, here folks. I had a reverse experience and I wanna tell ya' all about it.
CASINO MINION: IF WE CATCH YOU ANYWHERE NEAR A CRAPS TABLE ONE MORE TIME, WE ARE THROWING YOUR BUTT OUTTA HERE, UNNERSTAND? PLAY ROULETTE OR BLACKJACK, PAI-GOW OR LET IT RIDE BUT NO DICE.
TARGET: DO I NEED TO GET A LAWYER OR SOMETHING?
CASINO MINION: NOW YOU'RE REALLY TAKING BAD ODDS.
TARGET: GUESS I'LL GO AND CASH OUT THEN.
What kind of money were you guys talking about? Was it on one occasion or multiple wins?
Curious?
H-M
A long time ago, in a casino far, far away:
Casino Person: You are welcome to play any other game in the casino but no more blackjack, ok?
Magician: (Using Jedi mind trick on Casino Person) You don't want to back me off.
Casino Person: I don't want to back you off.
Magician: You want to go home and rethink your life.
Casino Person: I want to go home and rethink my life.
May the cards be with you.
Dear PunkEye,
Do you really expect that this group of advantage players believes that you win consistently and have been barred for playing what every casino knows is a negative expectation game (craps). Thanks for the laugh I was having a difficult day. LOL
It happened a couple of months ago. Here's the link.
Next time, I'm bringing some extra clips.
backoff. I was asked to step away from the table and then told that I could not play BJ for "business reasons". I said OK, no problem. He (mgr) asked.. "no hard feelings", to which I replyed.. "no, not at all".
He then gave me an unlimited dinner comp and I thanked him, scooped up my winnings and washed up for the salmon and prime-rib.
5 days later, I was back in the venue on a different shift with no goatee, no hat, and glasses. After making sure "Mr. backoff" wasn't juggling multi-shifts, I played without heat for 5 hours and no... I wasn't gunslingling with 30x1 naked spreads ala Mayor.
Spok
Just like the casinos believed that their blackjack game was unassailable until some heavy thinkers changed their minds about it. It isn't my purpose to convince anybody of anything. Believe whatever you choose. All I know is the game of craps is indeed a negative expectation for some but not everyone. But on a different note, the more skeptics out there, the less I have to worry about being put out of business.
You say it your way, and I'll say it mein!
