Play Strategy vs. Bet Variation

Hi, I have a simple question: Since bet variation is so under heat, why don't people just use some counting system that is more efficient in play strategy? Then they can win without bet variation. These can be done especially in SD or DD.

You don't need to worry about pit boss any more. Any you don't have to wait for the juicy pack. With proper strategy, you can take adavantage whatever the count is.

But there doesn't seem to a lot people doing this. Anything wrong with this?

In today's games, playing stategy alone won't gain an advantage. If you find an s17 single decker with great penetration, you might manage to eke out a small profit, but good luck on finding such a game. You won't be able to get an advantage from playing strategy alone in any multiple deck games as they are being offered today. Betting variation is what makes the money in card counting, and practically speaking, it has always been by far the most important factor.

You can help find your answer. You did not define what you mean by "more efficient in play strategy." What you think is efficient, i.e., an acceptable win rate, may not be so considered by others.

1. How much of an hourly win rate do you need and what % of edge is needed to get there. (This will determine amount of your flat bet.)

2. Are you willing to learn and execute a multi-level count, with at least an ace side-count, required to realize the necessary edge?

3. Can you find a pitch game dealing enough rounds to get there?

4. Can you rely on the pit allowing you to play otherwise perfect BS, with all deviations coincidentally correlating with deck value?

5. I believe you will find that if you can satisfy number 2. and 3., in order to realize number 1., you are going to be wagering multiple black in order to realize your acceptable win rate. Heavy black action at pitch games always draws pit scrutiny, even if it appears at first that it is coming from a flat-betting ploppy.

Further, there is simply not enough 1D and 2D out there to allow you to get in enough play under the above conditions for very long. And then there is the 6:5 problem. :-)

Good luck

or great rules to flat bet and beat a single deck game. Not many places offer that...See Theroy of Blackjack to get some idea how deep the pen would need to be for you to flat bet & beat the game. The highest playing efficientcy system I know of is to use Hi Opt I with side counts of Aces, Dueces, Sevens, Eights & Nines. PE comes out to about 89% I recall...could you keep track of all that in the modern casino?