Needed Please: Human Dealt Data

Hello again,

What I am looking for is real, human dealt shoe data that is in the following kind of form:
Shoe 1: W, L, W2x, L, L3X, L, L, BJ, W, L, L, W, W, W
Shoe 2: L, W, W, L, etc.

Vidpoker has an excellent example of this, but only 30 shoes. I am looking for as many as possible so I don't have to deal cards myself if possible.

Thanks,
Overkill

No matter what you are thinking, you are utterly, completely, totally wasting your time.

Don

Don,

I don't always disagree with you.

Dr 21

Like Don said,You are wasting your time with this.If someone like Don Schlesinger tells you this, you better beleive it.There are ways for you to overcome the house edge and it is not with some sort of win/lose betting strategy.

"I don't always disagree with you."

Sure. Sometimes, you're actually right! :-)

Don

This is his second progression related post.

Hello all,

I definitely respect the great minds of this game. But hear me out please: in testing a strategy with 322 manually dealt hands, my win units = +2.4 standard deviations. I know it's not much, but c'mon, obtaining such a result using basic strategy should only happen 3/100 times. (And financially, at a $3,000 table, the profit amounts to roughly $144,000 if I am not mistaken.). By the way, the strategy is NOT the following strategy I discussed previously: bet $1000, bet $10, bet $100, bet $10. Again, it's not a progression, and it's not card-counting per se.

What I would like is to test it with millions of manually dealt casino hands. However, this is obviously impractical. So, does anyone know where I can find Bob Hubby's 2000 self-published spiral bound book that contains the results (including the running count) of 50,000 manually dealt hands?

Thanks,
Overkill

why waste your time testing it with previously dealt hands. Go to a casino, find a $3000 table and make a year�s salary in 8 hours and then tell people like Don S. and me how foolish we were for doubting you.

Dr 21

Believing something just because DS or anyone else tells you so is bad thinking. It just so happens that DS can back up what he says on this issue with vast amounts of supporting data.

That was my point.I don't think Don Schlesinger ever says anything without having vast amounts of supporting data.

"why waste your time testing it with previously dealt hands. Go to a casino, find a $3000 table and make a year�s salary in 8 hours and then tell people like Don S. and me how foolish we were for doubting you."

Actually, the problem with this approach is that, in fact, he might do exactly what you say. :-)

And, in that instance, would you then feel foolish for doubting him?

I think not. But, how would he know right from wrong?

Don

If he was fortunate enough to win a substantial amount of money in 8 hours, I would not feel foolish as I would still know that you and I were right. Nonetheless, I would still congratulate him and warn him that future success is not guaranteed.

There is nothing that you or I can write that will convince closed minded people that betting schemes (progressions of any type) alone will not work. For all we know, Puiu has returned.

Dr 21